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Oct

Why Scientific Evidence Leads to the Conclusion that God Exists


>>ANNOUNCER: TODAY ON THE JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW: HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU HEARD PEOPLE SAY, “I DON’T BELIEVE THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE FOR ME TO BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.” WELL THEY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE NEW SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES THAT HAVE SHOWN THE UNIVERSE HAS NOT EXISTED FOREVER, BUT HAD AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING ABOUT 14 BILLION YEARS AGO. WHY DOES THIS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE LEAD TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD EXISTS? MY GUEST TODAY WHO WILL TELL US IS PHILOSOPHER DR. WILLIAM LANE CRAIG WHO HOLDS A PHD IN PHILOSOPHY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF BIRMINGHAM IN ENGLAND, AND A DOCTOR OF THEOLOGY DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MUNICH. JOIN US FOR THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF THE JOHN ANKERBERG SHOW.>>JOHN ANKERBERG: HI, I’M JOHN ANKERBERG. THANKS FOR JOINING ME. WHAT SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE LEADS TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD EXISTS? WELL RECENT SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THE UNIVERSE HAS NOT EXISTED FOREVER, BUT HAD AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING ABOUT 14 BILLION YEARS AGO. WHY DO THESE SCIENTIFIC FACTS LEAD TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD EXISTS? WELL I WANT YOU TO WATCH A SHORT VIDEO CLIP THAT WILL EXPLAIN IN SIMPLE TERMS WHY THIS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE LEADS TO THE CONCLUSION THAT GOD EXISTS. THIS VIDEO CLIP WAS PRODUCED BY DR. WILLIAM LANE CRAIG’S ORGANIZATION: “REASONABLEFAITH.ORG.” I’D LIKE YOU TO LISTEN.>>NARRATOR: DOES GOD EXIST? OR IS THE MATERIAL UNIVERSE ALL THAT IS, EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE? ONE APPROACH TO ANSWERING THIS QUESTION IS THE COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT. IT GOES LIKE THIS. WHATEVER BEGINS TO EXIST HAS A CAUSE. THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST, THEREFORE THE UNIVERSE HAS A CAUSE. IS THE FIRST PREMISE TRUE? LET’S CONSIDER. BELIEVING THAT SOMETHING CAN POP INTO EXISTENCE WITHOUT A CAUSE IS MORE OF A STRETCH THAN BELIEVING IN MAGIC. AT LEAST WITH MAGIC YOU’VE GOT A HAT AND A MAGICIAN. AND IF SOMETHING CAN COME INTO BEING FROM NOTHING THEN WHY DON’T WE SEE THIS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME? NO, EVERYDAY EXPERIENCE AND SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE CONFIRM OUR FIRST PREMISE. IF SOMETHING BEGINS TO EXIST, IT MUST HAVE A CAUSE. BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR SECOND PREMISE THAT THE UNIVERSE BEGAN OR HAS IT ALWAYS EXISTED? ATHEISTS HAVE TYPICALLY SAID THAT THE UNIVERSE HAS BEEN HERE FOREVER. THE UNIVERSE IS JUST THERE AND THAT’S ALL. FIRST LET’S CONSIDER THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS. IT TELLS US THE UNIVERSE IS SLOWLY RUNNING OUT OF USABLE ENERGY AND THAT’S THE POINT. IF THE UNIVERSE HAD BEEN HERE FOREVER, IT WOULD HAVE RUN OUT OF USABLE ENERGY BY NOW. THE SECOND LAW POINTS US TO A UNIVERSE THAT HAS A DEFINITE BEGINNING. THIS IS FURTHER CONFIRMED BY A SERIES OF REMARKABLE SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES. IN 1915 ALBERT EINSTEIN PRESENTED HIS GENERAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY. THIS ALLOWED US FOR THE FIRST TIME TO TALK MEANINGFULLY ABOUT THE PAST HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE. NEXT ALEXANDER FRIEDMAN AND GEORGE LEMAITRE EACH WORKING WITH EINSTEIN’S EQUATIONS PREDICTED THAT THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING. THEN IN 1929 EDWIN HUBBLE MEASURED THE REDSHIFT IN LIGHT FROM DISTANT GALAXIES. THIS EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE CONFIRMED NOT ONLY THAT THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING BUT THAT IT SPRANG INTO BEING FROM A SINGLE POINT IN THE FINITE PAST. IT WAS A MONUMENTAL DISCOVERY ALMOST BEYOND COMPREHENSION. HOWEVER, NOT EVERYONE IS FOND OF A FINITE UNIVERSE SO IT WASN’T LONG BEFORE ALTERNATIVE MODELS POPPED INTO EXISTENCE. BUT ONE BY ONE THESE MODELS FAILED TO STAND THE TEST OF TIME. MORE RECENTLY, THREE LEADING COSMOLOGISTS, ARVIND BORDE, ALAN GUTH, AND ALEXANDER VILENKIN PROVED THAT ANY UNIVERSE WHICH HAS ON AVERAGE BEEN EXPANDING THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY CANNOT BE ETERNAL IN THE PAST BUT MUST HAVE AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING. THIS EVEN APPLIES TO THE MULTIVERSE, IF THERE IS SUCH A THING. THIS MEANS THAT SCIENTISTS CAN NO LONGER HIDE BEHIND A PAST ETERNAL UNIVERSE. THERE IS NO ESCAPE. THEY HAVE TO FACE THE PROBLEM OF A COSMIC BEGINNING. ANY ADEQUATE MODEL MUST HAVE A BEGINNING JUST LIKE THE STANDARD MODEL. IT’S QUITE PLAUSIBLE THEN THAT BOTH PREMISES OF THE ARGUMENT ARE TRUE. THIS MEANS THAT THE CONCLUSION IS ALSO TRUE. THE UNIVERSE HAS A CAUSE. AND SINCE THE UNIVERSE CAN’T CAUSE ITSELF, ITS CAUSE MUST BE BEYOND THE SPACE-TIME UNIVERSE.>>ANKERBERG: NOW FOLKS IF YOU’D LIKE TO SEE THE ENTIRE VIDEO CLIP, GO TO DR. CRAIG’S WEBSITE AT REASONABLEFAITH.ORG. BUT NEXT I ASKED DR. CRAIG TO PRESENT AND EXPLAIN THE THREE PREMISES THAT FORM THE COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD. I’D LIKE YOU TO LISTEN.>>DR. WILLIAM LANE CRAIG: THE ARGUMENT IS SIMPLY FORMULATED. PREMISE ONE IS THAT WHATEVER BEGINS TO EXIST HAS A CAUSE. NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST. AND FROM THOSE TWO PREMISES IT FOLLOWS LOGICALLY, THREE, THEREFORE THE UNIVERSE HAS A CAUSE. AND THEN ONE CAN ANALYZE WHAT IT IS TO BE A CAUSE OF THE UNIVERSE, AND A NUMBER OF THEOLOGICALLY STRIKING AND SIGNIFICANT PROPERTIES OF THIS TRANSCENDENT CAUSE EMERGE.>>ANKERBERG: YEAH, GIVE US THAT FIRST PREMISE AND THE REASONS SUPPORTING IT.>>CRAIG: THE FIRST PREMISE, YOU REMEMBER, IS “WHATEVER BEGINS TO EXIST HAS A CAUSE.” I THINK THAT THIS IS ALMOST OBVIOUS, BUT I GIVE THREE REASONS IN SUPPORT OF THIS. FIRST REASON IS THAT SOMETHING CANNOT COME OUT OF NOTHING: OUT OF NOTHING, NOTHING COMES. FOR THE UNIVERSE TO COME INTO BEING UNCAUSED, FROM NOTHING, WOULD BE LITERALLY WORSE THAN MAGIC. SO IF WE REJECT MAGIC, WE SHOULD REJECT THE IDEA THAT THE UNIVERSE JUST POPPED INTO EXISTENCE UNCAUSED. NOW, SOMETIMES SKEPTICS WILL SAY, “BUT QUANTUM PHYSICS ALLOWS THINGS TO COME INTO BEING FROM NOTHING. SUBATOMIC PARTICLES CAN POP INTO EXISTENCE OUT OF THE VACUUM AS RANDOM FLUCTUATIONS.” BUT, JOHN, THIS IS A DELIBERATE MISREPRESENTATION OF THE SCIENCE. THE QUANTUM VACUUM IS NOT WHAT THE LAYMAN THINKS A VACUUM IS. THE QUANTUM VACUUM IS MOST EMPHATICALLY NOT NOTHING. IT IS A ROILING SEA OF ENERGY, A FIELD OF INTENSE ACTIVITY GOVERNED BY PHYSICAL LAWS. IT IS NOT NOTHING. SO FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THAT THESE PARTICLES COME INTO EXISTENCE FROM NOTHING IS SIMPLY A DISTORTION OF THE SCIENCE INVOLVED. THE WORD “NOTHING” IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS A TERM OF UNIVERSAL NEGATION. IT MEANS NOT ANYTHING. SO WHEN WE SAY THE UNIVERSE CAME INTO EXISTENCE OUT OF NOTHING, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING PRIOR TO THE UNIVERSE, AND THAT WAS NOTHING. NO, IT MEANS THAT THE UNIVERSE DID NOT COME INTO EXISTENCE OUT OF ANYTHING. AND SO FOR THE UNIVERSE TO COME INTO EXISTENCE WITHOUT A CAUSE, FROM NOTHING, WOULD BE LITERALLY, AS I SAY, WORSE THAN MAGIC. SO I THINK THAT’S THE FIRST GOOD REASON FOR AFFIRMING PREMISE ONE. THE SECOND REASON FOR AFFIRMING THAT WHATEVER BEGINS TO EXIST HAS A CAUSE IS THAT IF THINGS COULD COME INTO EXISTENCE UNCAUSED, FROM NOTHING, THEN IT BECOMES INEXPLICABLE WHY ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING DOESN’T COME INTO EXISTENCE UNCAUSED, FROM NOTHING. WHY DON’T BICYCLES AND ROOT BEER AND BEETHOVEN POP INTO EXISTENCE UNCAUSED, FROM NOTHING? WHY IS IT ONLY UNIVERSES THAT CAN COME INTO BEING UNCAUSED, FROM NOTHING? SO IF YOU ALLOW UNIVERSES TO DO THAT, EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT. AND THAT OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T HAPPEN; THAT’S FALSE. THE THIRD REASON IS THAT THIS PREMISE, THAT WHATEVER BEGINS TO EXIST HAS A CAUSE, IS UNIVERSALLY VERIFIED BY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND COMMON EXPERIENCE AND NEVER FALSIFIED. THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT OUGHT TO APPEAL TO THE SCIENTIFIC NATURALIST. WE HAVE THE STRONGEST INDUCTIVE EVIDENCE FROM EXPERIENCE THAT WHATEVER BEGINS TO EXIST DOES HAVE A CAUSE.>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT BILL, THERE ARE TWO PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENTS AND TWO SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS IN DEFENSE OF PREMISE TWO; NAMELY THAT THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST. GIVE ME A COUPLE OF THE PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENTS.>>DR. CRAIG: THE FIRST PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT IS BASED UPON THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF THE EXISTENCE OF AN ACTUALLY INFINITE NUMBER OF THINGS. NOW WHAT DO WE MEAN BY ACTUALLY INFINITE? WELL, HERE MATHEMATICIANS DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A POTENTIAL INFINITE AND AN ACTUAL INFINITE. A POTENTIAL INFINITE IS A COLLECTION THAT IS GROWING TOWARD INFINITY BUT IT NEVER GETS THERE. BY CONTRAST, AN ACTUAL INFINITE IS A COMPLETED INFINITE. IT, IT IS ACTUALLY INFINITE; IT’S ACTUALLY COMPLETE. NOW IF THE PAST NEVER HAD A BEGINNING THEN THERE HAS BEEN AN ACTUALLY INFINITE NUMBER OF EVENTS PRIOR TO TODAY. BUT MATHEMATICIANS RECOGNIZE THAT THE IDEA OF AN ACTUALLY INFINITE NUMBER OF THINGS LEADS TO VARIOUS ABSURDITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS INFINITY MINUS INFINITY? WELL, MATHEMATICALLY YOU GET SELF-CONTRADICTORY ANSWERS. THIS SHOWS THAT INFINITY IS JUST AN IDEA IN YOUR MIND. NOT SOMETHING THAT EXISTS IN REALITY. THEREFORE SINCE PAST EVENTS ARE NOT JUST IDEAS IN YOUR MIND, BUT ARE REAL, THE NUMBER OF PAST EVENTS MUST BE FINITE AND THEREFORE THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST. THE SECOND PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT IS BASED UPON THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF FORMING AN ACTUALLY INFINITE COLLECTION BY ADDING ONE MEMBER AFTER ANOTHER. THIS IS SOMETIMES CALLED “THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF COUNTING TO INFINITY.” YOU CAN NEVER COUNT TO INFINITY BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD ONE MORE BEFORE YOU GET THERE. BUT IF YOU CAN’T COUNT TO INFINITY, HOW COULD YOU COUNT DOWN FROM INFINITY? THIS IS EQUALLY ABSURD. TO ILLUSTRATE, IMAGINE TWO PLANETS THAT HAVE BEEN ORBITING THE SUN AND ONE GOES TWICE AS FAST AS THE OTHER. THE LONGER THEY ORBIT THE GREATER THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF ORBITS GOES TWO TO ONE, FOUR TO TWO, EIGHT TO FOUR, ETC. ETC. IN FACT THE LONGER THEY ORBIT THE GREATER THE DISPARITY WOULD GROW AND IT WOULD EVENTUALLY APPROACH INFINITY. BUT NOW TURN IT AROUND AND LET’S IMAGINE THEY HAVE BEEN ORBITING FROM ETERNITY PAST. WHICH ONE HAS COMPLETED THE MOST ORBITS? WELL, THE MATHEMATICAL ANSWER IS THEY’RE EQUAL. THE NUMBER IS JUST INFINITY. BUT THAT SEEMS ABSURD. THE LONGER THEY ORBIT THE GREATER THE DISPARITY BETWEEN THEM GROWS. SO HOW CAN THE NUMBER NOW MAGICALLY BE EQUAL JUST BECAUSE THEY’VE BEEN ORBITING FROM INFINITY PAST? THESE SORTS OF ABSURDITIES GO TO ILLUSTRATE THE POINT THAT THE PAST CANNOT BE INFINITE, THAT IT MUST BE FINITE AND THEREFORE THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST.>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT, SO YOU’VE GOT TWO PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENTS, AND YOU SAY THERE’S TWO SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS.>>CRAIG: YES, WITH THE ADVENT OF THE 20TH CENTURY, THERE BEGAN TO EMERGE IN PHYSICS DRAMATIC AND UNEXPECTED SCIENTIFIC CONFIRMATION OF THE FACT THAT THE UNIVERSE IS NOT PAST ETERNAL BUT HAD AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING ABOUT FOURTEEN BILLION YEARS AGO IN THE FINITE PAST. THE FIRST OF THESE SCIENTIFIC CONFIRMATIONS COMES FROM THE EXPANSION OF THE UNIVERSE. WHEN ALBERT EINSTEIN APPLIED HIS NEWLY DISCOVERED GRAVITATIONAL THEORY, THE GENERAL THEORY OF RELATIVITY, TO THE UNIVERSE AS A WHOLE IN 1917, IT HAD A VERY UNWELCOME PREDICTION. IT SHOWED THAT THE UNIVERSE COULD NOT EXIST IN A SORT OF STATIC ETERNAL CONDITION. IT WOULD EITHER BE IN A STATE OF COSMIC EXPANSION OR A STATE OF COSMIC CONTRACTION. AND EINSTEIN DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THIS RESULT. AND SO HE ACTUALLY FUDGED HIS EQUATIONS IN ORDER TO PRESERVE AN ETERNAL UNIVERSE. WELL, DURING THE 1920’S, BY TAKING EINSTEIN’S EQUATIONS AT FACE VALUE, THE RUSSIAN MATHEMATICIAN ALEXANDER FRIEDMANN AND THE BELGIUM ASTRONOMER GEORGES LEMAITRE WERE ABLE TO SHOW INDEPENDENTLY MODELS OF AN EXPANDING UNIVERSE THAT HAD A BEGINNING AT SOME POINT IN THE FINITE PAST AND IS NOW EXPANDING. AND THESE MODELS CAME TO BE CALLED THE BIG BANG THEORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE. WHAT IS SO REMARKABLE ABOUT THE BIG BANG THEORY IS THAT THE BEGINNING IT POSTULATES IS AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE. NOT ONLY ALL MATTER AND ENERGY ORIGINATE AT THAT MOMENT, BUT PHYSICAL SPACE AND TIME THEMSELVES ORIGINATE AT THAT MOMENT. SO THAT IT IS PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EXTEND SPACE AND TIME, MATTER AND ENERGY BACK ANY FURTHER THAN THAT POINT. IT IS THE ABSOLUTE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE.>>ANKERBERG: AND YOU’VE GOT AN ILLUSTRATION IN TERMS OF USING A BALLOON THAT DESCRIBES THIS.>>CRAIG: IT’S VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO MISUNDERSTAND THIS MODEL. IT’S MUCH MORE RADICAL THAN THE LAYMAN NORMALLY THINKS. THE MODEL DOES NOT DESCRIBE THE EXPANSION OF OUR MATERIAL UNIVERSE INTO A PREEXISTING EMPTY SPACE. THE MODEL IS MUCH MORE RADICAL THAN THAT. RATHER, WHAT THE MODEL DESCRIBES IS THE EXPANSION OF SPACE ITSELF. AND TO GET AN IDEA OF THIS, WE CAN THINK OF A BALLOON WITH BUTTONS GLUED ON THE SURFACE OF THE BALLOON. NOW, THE BUTTONS ARE STATIONARY WITH RESPECT TO THE SURFACE OF THE BALLOON. THEY’RE STUCK IN PLACE. BUT AS THE BALLOON BLOWS UP, THE BUTTONS GET FURTHER AND FURTHER AND FURTHER APART BECAUSE THE BALLOON ITSELF IS EXPANDING. NOW, THE SURFACE OF THE BALLOON IS JUST LIKE OUR 3-DIMENSIONAL SPACE. THE GALAXIES ARE ACTUALLY AT REST IN SPACE, BUT THEY MOVE AWAY FROM EACH OTHER BECAUSE SPACE ITSELF IS EXPANDING. AND THE RADICAL IMPLICATION OF THIS IS THAT AS YOU TRACE THE EXPANSION BACK IN TIME, THE GALAXIES GET CLOSER AND CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER UNTIL FINALLY EVERYTHING IS CONTRACTED DOWN TO A SINGLE POINT BEFORE WHICH THE UNIVERSE LITERALLY DID NOT EXIST. SO THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE ORIGIN OF SPACE, TIME, MATTER AND ENERGY IN THE BIG BANG EVENT. THIS PREDICTION OF AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE HAS NOW STOOD FOR ALMOST 100 YEARS THROUGH THE MOST TUMULTUOUS AND INCREDIBLE PERIOD OF ADVANCE IN BOTH THEORETICAL AND EXPERIMENTAL PHYSICS. IN FACT, IN THE YEAR 2003, THREE LEADING COSMOLOGISTS, ARVIND BORDE, ALEXANDER VILENKIN AND ALAN GUTH, SHOWED THAT ANY UNIVERSE WHICH IS ON AVERAGE IN A STATE OF COSMIC EXPANSION CANNOT BE ETERNAL IN THE PAST BUT MUST HAVE AN ABSOLUTE BEGINNING AT SOME TIME IN THE FINITE PAST. ACCORDING TO THE BORDE-GUTH-VILENKIN THEOREM, CLASSICAL SPACE-TIME CANNOT BE EXTENDED TO PAST INFINITY BUT MUST TERMINATE IN A BOUNDARY. IF THAT BOUNDARY WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE, THEN THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST. IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT BOUNDARY DESCRIBED BY A YET TO BE DISCOVERED THEORY OF EVERYTHING, THEN VILENKIN SAYS THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE. WHAT YOU CANNOT HAVE IS A UNIVERSE THAT EXISTS FOR INFINITE PAST TIME. SO VILENKIN IS VERY FORTHRIGHT ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS. THIS IS WHAT HE SAYS, “IT IS SAID THAT AN ARGUMENT IS WHAT CONVINCES A REASONABLE MAN AND A PROOF IS WHAT IT TAKES TO CONVINCE EVEN AN UNREASONABLE MAN. WITH THE PROOF NOW IN PLACE, COSMOLOGISTS CAN NO LONGER HIDE BEHIND THE POSSIBILITY OF A PAST ETERNAL UNIVERSE. THERE IS NO ESCAPE, THEY HAVE TO FACE THE PROBLEM OF A COSMIC BEGINNING.”>>ANKERBERG: YEAH, WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS, THE LAYPERSON HEARS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THEORIES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO DEFEAT WHAT THEY’RE SAYING. BUT FOR A HUNDRED YEARS IT STOOD, AND THE VERY DEFEAT OF ALL OF THESE PROPOSALS SHOW THAT THE UNIVERSE HAD A BEGINNING.>>CRAIG: THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT THE, THE HISTORY OF 20TH CENTURY COSMOLOGY CAN IN A WAY BE SEEN AS A PARADE OF FAILED THEORIES TRYING TO AVOID THE ABSOLUTE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE. STEADY STATE MODELS, VACUUM FLUCTUATION MODELS, OSCILLATING MODELS, STRING MODELS. OVER AND OVER AGAIN THEORISTS HAVE TRIED TO AVOID THE ABSOLUTE BEGINNING AND NONE OF THESE ATTEMPTS HAS PROVED ITSELF MORE PLAUSIBLE IN THE MINDS OF THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY THAN MODELS WITH A BEGINNING.>>ANKERBERG: YEAH, THAT’S IMPORTANT. THE SECOND SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENT IS THE THERMODYNAMICS OF THE UNIVERSE. EXPLAIN THAT.>>CRAIG: YES, IT’S AS IF IT WEREN’T ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE SCIENTIFIC CONFIRMATION, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SECOND FROM THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS. THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS PREDICT THAT A CLOSED SYSTEM, THAT IS SAY A SYSTEM THAT DOESN’T HAVE ENERGY BEING FED INTO IT, EVENTUALLY WILL RUN DOWN AND QUIT AS ITS ENERGY IS EXHAUSTED. NOW ON ATHEISM, THE UNIVERSE JUST IS A GIGANTIC CLOSED SYSTEM SINCE THERE IS NOTHING OUTSIDE OF IT FEEDING ENERGY INTO IT. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT OVER ENOUGH TIME THE UNIVERSE WILL EVENTUALLY RUN INTO A STATE OF THERMODYNAMIC HEAT DEATH OF ONE SORT OR THE OTHER. NOW, IF THAT WILL HAPPEN IN A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN WHY HASN’T IT ALREADY HAPPENED IF THE UNIVERSE HAS ALREADY EXISTED FOR INFINITE TIME? THE UNIVERSE SHOULD NOW BE IN A DARK, DILUTE, LIFELESS, COLD STATE BUT IT’S NOT. THIS INDICATES THAT THE UNIVERSE HAS NOT EXISTED FROM INFINITY PAST, BUT BEGAN TO EXIST A FINITE TIME AGO WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ENERGY PUT IN AS AN INITIAL CONDITION, AND IT’S BEEN RUNNING DOWN SINCE THEN AS IT EXPANDS.>>ANKERBERG: ALRIGHT, SO THEN YOUR THIRD PREMISE, YOUR CONCLUSION?>>CRAIG: SO WE HAVE BOTH GOOD PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENT AND SCIENTIFIC CONFIRMATION OF THAT KEY SECOND PREMISE, THAT THE UNIVERSE BEGAN TO EXIST. FROM THE TWO PREMISES IT FOLLOWS LOGICALLY THEREFORE THE UNIVERSE HAS A CAUSE OF ITS EXISTENCE. NOW, WHAT IS IT TO BE A CAUSE OF THE UNIVERSE? WELL, WHAT WE’VE SAID SO FAR IMPLIES A NUMBER OF STRIKING ATTRIBUTES. THIS CAUSE MUST ITSELF BE UNCAUSED, BECAUSE THERE CANNOT BE AN INFINITE REGRESSIVE CAUSES. SO THIS MUST BE AN UNCAUSED FIRST CAUSE OF THE ORIGIN OF THE UNIVERSE. IT MUST TRANSCEND BOTH TIME AND SPACE SINCE IT CREATED BOTH TIME AND SPACE. THEREFORE IT CANNOT BE PHYSICAL BUT MUST BE AN IMMATERIAL BEING THAT TRANSCENDS THE UNIVERSE. IT MUST BE A BEING OF UNIMAGINABLE POWER TO BRING ALL THE MATTER AND ENERGY, SPACE AND TIME, INTO EXISTENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND FINALLY, I WOULD ARGUE, THIS BEING IS PLAUSIBLY PERSONAL. HOW ELSE CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU CAN GET A TEMPORAL EFFECT WITH A BEGINNING FROM A CAUSE THAT IS ETERNAL AND PERMANENT? IF THE CAUSE IS AN IMPERSONAL MECHANICAL SET OF CONDITIONS, THEN ONCE THE CAUSE IS GIVEN, THE EFFECT HAS TO BE GIVEN AS WELL. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CAUSE OF WATER’S FREEZING IS THE TEMPERATURE BEING BELOW ZERO DEGREES CELSIUS. IF THE TEMPERATURE WERE BELOW ZERO DEGREES FROM ETERNITY PAST, THEN ANY WATER THAT WAS AROUND WOULD BE FROZEN FROM ETERNITY PAST. IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE WATER JUST TO BEGIN TO FREEZE A FINITE TIME AGO. THE ONLY WAY TO GET A TEMPORAL EFFECT WITH A BEGINNING FROM AN ETERNAL PERMANENT CAUSE IS IF THAT CAUSE IS A PERSONAL AGENT; ENDOWED WITH FREEDOM OF THE WILL; WHO CAN THEREFORE FREELY CREATE A NEW EFFECT IN TIME WITHOUT ANY PRIOR DETERMINING CONDITIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, A MAN SITTING FROM ETERNITY COULD FREELY WILL TO STAND UP. AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE A TEMPORAL EFFECT ARISE FROM AN ETERNAL CAUSE. AND SO WE’RE BROUGHT NOT JUST TO A TRANSCENDENT CAUSE OF THE UNIVERSE BUT TO ITS PERSONAL CREATOR. SO I THINK THAT THIS ARGUMENT GIVES US GROUNDS FOR BELIEVING THAT THERE IS A FIRST UNCAUSED, BEGINNINGLESS, TIMELESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL, ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL, PERSONAL CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYBODY MEANS BY GOD. [CHUCKLE]>>ANKERBERG: NOW, I HOPE THAT YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT WE SHOULD SHARE WITH PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD. 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  • benjamin cyril says:

    First of all when people talk about something like 14 billion years ,that by itself is forever …..the human race didnt exsist 14 billion years and most likely it wont exsist for another 14 billion starting from today ….so the whole argument is a failing argument …wasting time is all

  • silence says:

    The cosmological argument is just nonsense.
    1. We do not know if there was a cause. It might have been nothing, since we do not really understand what nothing in the universe really is, or it might have come forth by an ordinary process.
    2. There is nothing saying that the Big bang is the start of everything. Its the start of the universe we know.
    Not to even mention that it does even prove a specific God.
    And you would still not escape the infinite regression with God.
    Its just absurd to make such claims when we lack so much knowledge about the universe.

  • Dennis J. Isreal says:

    E3=M3C3'2 = ELOHIM'S & EMMANUEL'S MAJESTY MADE EVERYTHING: CREATION, CREATURES, MANKIND & C.O.S.M.O.S'2= CREATED: OUTER SPACE, MATTER & OUR SOULS 2B HUMAN BEINGS IN THE IMAGE OF HIM & IN THE LIKENESS OF HIS SON, HOLY & SANCTIFIED, 2!!!

  • Sammy Sam says:

    First theists and the church state with a murderous iron fist that science is the tool of the devil. Now theists and churches want to jump on all the discoveries that science has proven at your own to convince followers that it proves God's existence. I'm sorry, but you don't get to do that after the countless number of lives you took in an effort to denounce science. And science does not prove God, if it did, that scientist would be the most famous and wealthiest person ever to walk the earth. Religion claims science proves God so it can build it's credibility with the public. What science has done for religion is prove that people will hold faith as fact when in reality, it's merely a belief without any proof.

  • Jesus - WayTruthLife says:

    14 billion years old? Don't think so. God created a mature universe, just like he created a mature man and woman in Adam and Eve and a mature garden that could sustain them.

  • Kyle J Hartman says:

    Argument from ignorance fallacy. "We don't know, therefore God" is not legitimate proof.

  • God's Community says:

    Hey. You can be happy. 🙌

  • Ravi Karthaka says:

    Is there a present history compared to past history?

  • Mark Levers says:

    Hallelujah!

  • Nick Nack says:

    If everything has a cause…… what caused God? Theists can't hide behind that one.

  • John G says:

    The stupidity of these two is truly astounding.

  • john boy says:

    why would got create this whole universe just for us to admire I think it has always been here we just don't want to except that

  • john boy says:

    they say the universe started out as a singularity and the big happened and the universe was just like a balloon expanding  but I think if you take that balloon and fill it with water and you take a pin and create a hole or weak spot for the universe matter to leak out from a sort of a multiverse  I think that's how it happened it has always been here not visible mabe a big enough black hole to tear space

  • Lunamaria says:

    The determined atheists in the comments are funny lol.

  • Sanny The Drunk Orc says:

    Piss off.

  • Mne Nadoelo says:

    Talk about cake and eat it. Where do this pair of Muppets get off picking and choosing which bits of scientific discovery are relevant to our understanding of the universe I.e. those that they think validate the existence of THEIR God and ignoring or mis-stating things that dont. Takes the piss.

  • Abanoub Mikhail says:

    Is the universe a closed system or an isolated system?

  • Thetruthwillblowyou away says:

    Another example for God’ existence > We live in the third dimension, right? Well, God is outside of it( maybe in the fourth or even further ). He is always above us and outside of us.

    Think about it like this. Take 2 HOSES.. And put the one with the smaller diameter inside the one with the bigger.

    See? we, our universe exist in the smaller one and God is in the bigger. We are limited by ours and we can't see outside of it but God can оbserve us.
    And also in such way our thinking and knowledge is limited. Just because we can't see outside of the present level of science DOES NOT mean that there is nothing outside of it!

    Questions like but where God came from and what was before the big bang are so immature.

    Maybe we are not supposed to know that! Let me ask you > if right now we have some advanced quantum computer and we simulate a universe and the beings inside of it have consciousness just like us, they won't know more than what we have given them to know. They won't know that they are inside of some computer and that outside of this computer there is existence.

    Maybe we are the same. WE ARE NOT PROGRAMMED to ever know what is outside of our universe and what caused the so-called big-bang.

    See? We just lack that in our source code. It is not embedded there by our creators. AND THIS IS WHY WE WALK BY FAITH NOT BY SIGHT.

    We must be tested, to see who of us are good(think of each one of us as a separate program). And just as programs are tested to see which are good and ready for further development so we are also being tested in this life.

    It is impossible that everything happened by chance. There must be someone to cause it or at least to kick it forward, you know.
    Some people refuse to believe in a creator because their ego, pride and self-esteem is too high. THEY CANNOT ACCEPT THAT THERE IS SOMEONE GREATER THAN THEM.Let me ask you something > If you go back in time and put some random 5 year old kid next to ALBERT EINSTEIN, HOW IS ALBERT GOING TO TALK, communicate with this kid?
    IS HE GOING TO USE HIS ENTIRE KNOWLEDGE or HE WILL use words that are suitable with the kid's present state of mind and development?
    Of course he will use the words suitable with the kid's present mentality.
    And so JESUS DID. Back 2000 years ago, he used words that people back then HAD IN THEIR LIVES. If he had used advanced airplanes instead of flying HORSES people will not be able to form a image about what he is talking…

    It is impossible that everything happened by chance. There must be someone to cause it or at least to kick it forward, you know.
    Some people refuse to believe in a creator because their ego, pride and self-esteem is too high. THEY CANNOT ACCEPT THAT THERE IS SOMEONE GREATER THAN THEM.

    Why kids die, why this and that and all crazy things happen around us? Because GOD MADE US WITH FREE WILL and we ABUSED IT. Now we are paying the consequences of our actions. Why blame God for our weaknesses and mistakes? IS GOD responsible for mothers in 8 month of pregnancy smoking 2 pack and drinking 5 cans of beer a day?

    And no this is not coming from some religious nut. I work as a computer tech with IQ OF 147.

    If you think we are put here and everyone just do whatever he likes and after you die it is all over, then you are either ignorant or just brainwashed.

  • Kim II Sung started the Korean War says:

    The Bible has great scientific accuracy. Read Ray Comfort's books on it at Amazon.

  • Thilo says:

    Sure then if there’s a cause , someone must have created god too to have an effect?

  • Radostin Vasilev says:

    Great

  • Ont xd 益 says:

    I'm from India now I'm in Christ
    Peace

  • vitamin sea says:

    the atheists is saying everything is like numbers it all started at zero to infinity, but even lifeless numbers need a creator,but in their world zero is really nine, put a zero to the right of a one and it becomes ten,

  • Healing heart says:

    May God bless you

  • Mika Zofstrum says:

    Sorry, I know for a fact that Chuck Norris counted to infinity twice!

  • Travis Fleury-Lopez says:

    Watch Sean Carroll correct Craig on many of these points in their debate. Craig is a grifter. He's far too intelligent not to know that his cosmological argument is baseless.

  • James King says:

    This is a bit off topic. But some on topic as far as God's existing goes…I find it funny how stem cell research is using cells( dna) that God created. And stupidly saying " they created life" yeah…for a cell that already existed that God made…so you did create anything by that.. go make your own DNA- cell from scratch…then boost. Promise you won't be able to! Smh morons

  • Mckenzie Bell says:

    Dinosaurs lived with man. They died in the flood.

  • Matt Holton says:

    The fact that the current expansion phase of the universe had a finite beginning does not in any way provide evidence for God. We do not know that the universe did not exist in some form before the current expansion. many cosmological model exist that describe multiverse structure beyond this universe (eg the inflationary model). None of these models imply or require the existence of a God.

    There are two good arguments against the existence of God. Any God must have attributes (he isn't nothing and must contain information) this information has to be describable using a dimensional structure (the argument for this is mathematical, any attribute eg weight can be quantified on a scale even if that scale is not dependent on 4d spacetime, hence it has dimension). This dimensional structure has to exist in order for God to exist so God could NOT have created it. Hence no logically consistent concept of God can be the creator of all things. hence if God is not the creator of all things then postulating God's existence to explain the existence of anything else is a logical fallacy (special pleading).

    The second argument is that any omniscient being would constitute an observer of any system described by a quantum wave function. Such an observation would always collapse the function so no quantum uncertainty could ever be observed. We DO observe quantum uncertainty in the form of uncollapsed wave functions so no omniscient observer can be observing the system. Hence no omniscient being is watching. This is not an absolute refutation of all possible God's existence. It just rules out an omniscient one assuming our current understanding of quantum mechanics is true (even partially)

  • mike philip says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiMqzN_YSXU&index=68&list=PLob1xFTUF-hvs11nb-ImS7XOkgNndjyq3&t=0s

    watch this video you will be convinced that god of the bible exists

  • Lord Nilsson says:

    But in that case…. a god must also has a cause…!! So… you're trapped in your own thoughts. And… if it's a god, that created the universe… it also must has invented the evolution..!?! And in that case.. what kind of god is that..? Since evolution is the most non-human, non-caring and raw evil system you can imagine… isn't it..!?? Suck on that !

  • Eddie Walter says:

    How can someone who believes in the resurection of Jesus think that the Universe is more than 6000 years old? If the ressurection is true, then the book of Genesis is true. http://wealthy-ideas.com

  • Lochlannach says:

    Whenever theists invoke "scientific evidence" they always fall victim to the Dunning Kruger Effect

  • rusty al mercado says:

    The universe itself which is us had the beggining example the earth itself and the land, plants and waters and the people that might come from evolution. If you simplify it ask the questions where the living things come from?, from evolution? The seed of the plants where it came from? Until it goes from the big bang which is universe

  • Little Bird says:

    I find it funny how atheists are quick to believe that the universe always existed, but when you present them with evidence that could indicate that the universe may have been created (had a beginning) and that could lead to the possibility of there being a creator (God) and that He always existed, it suddenly becomes impossible that the Creator always existed and the question now becomes who created the creator. That is a double standard if I've ever seen one.

  • Chase twohundredmph says:

    …and this science hinges on dancing around the campfire naked! LMFAO….how long is the country going to suffer your kind?

  • Youjacktube says:

    He looks like Donald Trump lol

  • gjsterp says:

    Craig claims god has a mind, but does it?
    We as humans can focus on only one thing at a time with our meager brains, but god would have to be able to focus on an infinite number of things going on in the Cosmos, past, present and future, and Craig claims in his arguments infinity can not exist.
    His Kalam argument fails miserably.

  • Son of Nun says:

    What WLC always does is put man in the position of judge and jury. The matter of there existing strong evidence or weak evidence does not change whether God exists or not. We are not the judge or jury. Everyone already knows that God exists, they just supress that truth in unrighteousness.

    " For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of people who suppress the truth by their unrighteousness, 19 because what can be known about God is plain to them,because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes – hiseternal power and divine nature – have been clearly seen, because they are understood through what has been made. So people are without excuse." Romans 1:18

  • Torrey Brown says:

    Sorry sir, just read your Bible. God doesn't need a Big Bang as an 'absolute beginning'. The Big Bang is based on Einstein's theory anyway, which requires gravity to be a 'pull'. When's the last time you've been pulled by gravity? In a rollercoaster, you feel pull. In an air plane, you feel pull. In a free-fall, gravity doesn't pull you down, you just fall.

  • Daniel Schwegler says:

    That's the conclusion when phylosophers pretend to be scientists.

  • Daniel Schwegler says:

    He obviously has no clue what mathematicians talk about

  • Head Busta says:

    Uk i listened to the arguement against Gods existence and it made literally 0 sense and when i listen 2 this it sounds like ur all genuinely smart, proof tht satan has 0 power in this movement

  • Greg Anderson says:

    Isnt energy and matter the cause and effect of itself? Cant be created. Nor destroyed?

  • Shroom Mane 45 says:

    Lol if you not believing in anything you lame af

  • Vitaliy Poluhin says:

    "But infinite regress of events is impossible therefore God which never began to exist so he is infinite in the past…"
    Waiting for the passionate creationist to say that God is beyond time and space and without time there is no infinity in the past and future because there is no past and future. But how the hell do you imagine that? How do you imagine an intention (to create the universe) and the action not separated by smthg like time? But God works in mysterious ways……

  • Illydando Manbrando says:

    I have to admit your apologetics were very entertaining, I got a good laugh out of this nonsense.

    It's a real shame there's still no proof of a God.

  • Charmiskit says:

    If this is sarcasm or trolling, it's masterful. Otherwise, I'm really scared that all those people in the comments are allowed to vote…

  • purple rain says:

    Excellent!👍

  • #AS#RATT 1980 says:

    Misinformation..

  • Terminator T-800 says:

    There has always had to be something. Maybe a massive sun in another universe gave birth to this universe at the end of it's life.

  • Chas and Carrie Griffiths says:

    The Bible said there will be time that the sun no longer gives its shine then those born again the remnant of the spirit of God will be the light of the WORLD!

  • Bernard Culbertson says:

    Here is evidence of my faith in GOD.
    As it is written, "…Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR LIKENESS” (Genesis 1:26).

    Behold from within thy body, the three section Brain: the Cerebrum, underneath it is the Cerebellum, and underneath it is the Brain-stem working together as One Brain. Three major holes of the Airways the body receive oxygen, two holes in the nostril and one through the mouth. Three main parts of the Nervous System: Brain, Spinal Cord, and Peripheral Nerves, consisting of three neurons: Afferent, Efferent, and Inter neurons working together as One to carrying electrical signals through the body. Three main blood vessels of the Circulatory System: Arteries, Veins, and Capillaries working as One to carry blood throughout the body.
    Furthermore, three main functions of the Digestive Track: to digest, to absorb, and to eliminate food as it passes through the body. Three major pair of saliva glands: Parotid, Sublingual, Sub-mandibular,, working as One within the mouth to produce the saliva to begin this process of breaking down the food. Three main accessory organs: Liver, Pancreas, and Gall Bladder working together as One to produce the enzymes that are vital to the process in breaking down the food. Three parts of the small intestines: Duodenum, Jejunum, Ileum, working together as One to complete the process of the food broken down within the Digestive Track!
    Lastly, the bones in each arm: Humerus, underneath it is the Radius, and underneath it is the Ulna held together by three joints: the Shoulder, underneath it is the Elbow, and underneath it is the Wrist working together as One Arm. Three bones in each finger held together by three joints. The Leg has three bones: Femur, underneath it is the Tibia, and underneath it is the Fibula held together by three joints: the Hip, underneath it is the Knee, and underneath it is the Ankle working together as One Leg. Even the kneecap bone that protects the knee joint is unique from the other three bones in the leg. The kneecap's shape, it's a "Circular Triangular Bone" with three sides.
    Finally, the foot has three bones in each toe held together by three joints. All parts working together as One in one body from Head to Toe. This wonderful tangible evidence is God’s handiwork left for mankind’s observation to behold His mighty hand of creation by the Father, Lord Jesus Christ, and Holy Ghost! THREE working together as ONE GOD by saying these magnificent words. “…Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR LIKENESS” (Genesis 1:26).
    Hence, mankind “…fearfully and wonderfully created marvelous are His works” (Psalms 139:14). Even this planet from where mankind dwell gives indication of its creator by Earth being the third planet from the SON. “His way is not the way of man neither are His thoughts the ways of men thoughts” (Isaiah 55:8). Oh how great art thou Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ! “Who is like unto thee oh Lord, ‘…from everlasting to everlasting thou art God!”’ (Exodus 15:11; Psalms 90:2)

  • Steven Fenster says:

    I have some theological training, and am a believer in God. Lang makes the point that there is no actual infinity, only potential infinity, and uses this as evidence that the universe had a beginning. I like the argument but I see a potential extension of it that could be problematic to answer. That is if there is no actual infinity and if something exists then how can God be infinite, and if God had a beginning, what was the cause. The argument could be used to support this old question.

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  • jp bernier says:

    space will expend till all matter and energy is consumed in about 100 trillion years

  • Just a mustard seed says:

    Calling all my Eagle's, Seer's, Prophet's, Apostolic and Prophetic Warrior Intercessors see thealmightyfatherGod.com

  • Rick Edwards says:

    Nope, science doesn’t prove god exists. Nice try.

  • Henning Andersen says:

    If God needs humans to prove "his" existence, "he" must either be mighty self-insecure, or have made a blunder "In the Beginning".

  • omcdude64 says:

    In the beginning man created god.

  • Chlint Valenzuela says:

    Very Good!
    May the God of the first century christians bless you more.

  • Bryan Brand says:

    Even if science proves god is the architect of the universe it doesn’t prove the bible is right get over yourselves

  • keeping it real says:

    Um, I thought the universe was only 10000 to 6000 years old, not 14 billion. I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say the universe has always existed, who are they questioning, retarded people?

  • Gert Scheper says:

    This is utter crap, and you know it.

  • Z Szilagyi says:

    How do you know it was God and not the Flying Spaghetti Monster who created the universe? At least that would explain a few things like why is there so much suffering and injustice in the world well unless the fling spaghetti monster enjoys looking at that. Could have stopped those terrorist in Sri Lanka from killing Christians who were praying…There might be a creator but he doesn’t seem to care…

  • Dennis Wilkerson says:

    I agree it had an absolute beginning, but not 14 billion years ago….

  • Bijo Valsaraj says:

    Every talk s same, thy just take finding f science ND explain tynd then whatever science hasn't yet found thy put that over to a creator ND say that s God… By the way u shld also tell which religion s that creator from..

  • Bijo Valsaraj says:

    Trash talk,, thy don't find anything abt God,, just keep on saying,, this s wrong, this a lack of that, blah blah blah………….. Nd put creator all over t.. Everything s finite… Nd by the way it s Christian, not Muslim, not hindu, not jew,,, grow up man.. Ur logical brain s not working. Thats the whole issue

  • John Aldridge says:

    This was really good. I grew up around so many nihilistic Atheists that acted like they knew all the answers. They act like science somehow 100% disproves the existence of a creator or a power that we don't/can't understand. They always take the most literal interpretations from religious texts that are easy to discredit and use that as their evidence, but they can never answer the broader more philosophical questions about the universe. When you take a step back and look at everything that we can observe in the universe and view it all from a purely scientific stand point, none of this makes any sense at all. It almost seems absurd. How and why is any of this even here right now? I think he's right, to think that all of the universe just randomly popped into existence is far more absurd than the idea of a creator.

  • bluecanary1note says:

    The question is not 'Is there a God?' The question is 'What do we mean by God?'. Atheists see God as a big man in the sky ready to zap us with thunderbolts for being naughty, that's why they they don't want to look any further.

  • Redouan Eisa says:

    quran: do the unbelievers not see that the heavens and the eart were joined together(in one mass), and we spaperated it and made from water every living thing. we made the universe with strength and skill and we are expanding it

  • Mintinc says:

    Wow.
    Great info.

  • Alfred Campbell says:

    Ok ok….there’s a god…there are over 4 thousand gods…which god are you referring to? Whats the evidence that your god is the true god?
    All Craig can do is prove the bible by quoting the bible….I can prove Santa Claus by quoting the Night before Christmas .
    Please don’t forget .The god these two men refer to has made them fortunes $. Do yourselves a favour and google their net worths.

  • Jason H says:

    it dosent take rocket science to figure God" exist look at moon sun night turn to lights look at different creatures God created lions fish rain it's amazing creation that humanity don't appreciate we need to do more by humbling our self toward God and toward one another by having love😎😎😎

  • Ian Lodge says:

    Sad pathetic pseudo argument in a desperate attempt to negate his fear of dying. Even if his loose hypothesis is correct – how does he know it’s the yeast, ham and homosexual hating foreskin collector as described in the bible? What links his “ultimate being” with Yahweh?

  • Jubei Yang says:

    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and the earth was without form. God separated the waters and the land. This implied that water was in the beginning of the creation of the earth. This definitely contradicts what scientists believe that the earth was formed by dust and water was not present until billions of years later. God created two lights, the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night. Well, there is only one light, the sun. The moon has no light of itself but a reflection of the sun's light. So God was wrong about that. The bible contradicts science.

  • Justin Radford says:

    Nice try but this just doesn't cut it.

  • Spirit says:

    I hate when people say “Science tells me this science tells me that” do you have any proof science started life?

  • Tomas Martinez says:

    Mr. Ankenberg: What a brilliant exposition from Mr. Craig and well conducted. I wonder if there is a written version of this program. And if positive what is the procedure to obtain a copy of it. I am passionate to defend God existence before both atheists and leftists. I would appreciate your answer.

  • ian philip says:

    20 minutes to say the universe had a beginning and then finally gets to the punch line and all we get are non-sequitur postulations which ultimately amount to arguments from ignorance. kalam will only get you to everything that has a beginning has a cause. thats it. philosophy is useless in this case.

  • ian philip says:

    no god didn’t provide squat the people did or did god violate their freewill and influence them to donate 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • David Sandell says:

    If the Bible says it, it is true.

  • IdleBigots says:

    1. The universe exists.
    2. Everything exists must have a cause.
    3. The universe must have had a cause.
    Okay, that's not a bad supposition and from a purely logical standpoint, it makes sense. But, the Kalam Cosmological Argument stops there. You don't say the universe had a cause, therefore that cause is the god I happen to believe in. You're jumping to a conclusion you have no evidence of.

    This is also not scientific evidence. Scientific evidence requires observation, hypothesis, and experimentation. This is leaping to conclusions.

  • Maksie0 says:

    It really doesn't though.

  • Darth Quantum says:

    No, it doesn't. If your claim that scientific evidence leads to the conclusion some god (not necessarily yours or anybody else's) or gods exist, then why are so many scientists atheists or agnostics? Sorry, but your conclusion doesn't logically fall from your premise.

  • Darth Quantum says:

    Little Bird-Brain, I don't know a single atheist who thinks the universe has always existed.The steady-state model (which is what you're claiming to be the atheist position) fell out of favor decades ago. Everybody accepts Big-Bang cosmology now because that's what the evidence suggests. And, no, the big-bang doesn't prove the existence of any god either. You know absolutely NOTHING about astronomy, physics, nor astrophysics. But like a typical uneducated theist, you blurt out your mental diarrhea anyway. Now, please go back to your trailer-park and chat with your intellectual equals.

  • Jermaine Lee Tao says:

    Dr. William Craig is one of the finest philosophers and a genius.

  • VASHTA NAVADA says:

    Funny how the pope is now saying yes the big bang was actually god..

  • VASHTA NAVADA says:

    He made a huge assumption by saying it must be a being. ??? .he has to first prove that…

  • QueFit says:

    CORRECTION:

    Edwin Hubble was not the 1st person who said that the universe is expending and it sprang into being from a single point” !!!

    Qur’an 21:30

    Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?

    Qur’an 51:47

    And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.

    Highly unethical to hide the truth like that…

  • tim coppinger says:

    What evidence? You idiots clutch at any vague bit of made up garbage.

  • timo kregting says:

    It's actually funny to see how this man is talking about the universe not being able to come from nothing, while appparently got is able to come from nothing. He's not answering the question of why there is something rather than nothing.

  • happily eggs says:

    Who is God? Nobody knows. He is a greater escape artist than Houdini. Never been seen and we only have unsubstantiated reports. The greatest exponent of hide and seek. God M.I.A. Dearie me, just when those evil atheists are on the rise, and he's not around to do any smiting.

  • Gordon Hovan Arthur says:

    If big bang is true then probably God made it… Bible and science says the same thing that the universe before is nothing but dark… God is the beginning… Big bang theory is bible-friendly

  • L.Sneed says:

    Hmmm..I'm starting to believe there is a more powerful transcendent being that caused our existence and created the universe in general. It's kind of a shock to the system and still feels unreal at times but I haven't heard anything else that makes more sense to me personally.

  • His Eternal Reign says:

    Infinity is mathematically impossible therefore the cosmic universe must have started outside of the universe, therefore it points to a perfect being that has always existed or can create itself.

  • Luckystrike says:

    An argument, any argument, every argument, is not evidence, they're just arguments.

  • Tengri Kayra Kan says:

    Wouw!

  • Lincoln Johnson says:

    God created the universe , nature itself tell us , the distance from the sun , the meaning of the moon ,giving us oxygen for the oceans , the perfection of this world and the universe , and everything created around us , there is no devil

  • Lincoln Johnson says:

    We have people in the world think the universe just happened , But theres a god , a creator , But there has never ever been a devil ,know thats fake

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