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What the Bible says about homosexuality | Kristin Saylor & Jim O’Hanlon | TEDxEdgemontSchool


Translator: Leonardo Silva
Reviewer: Ellen Maloney Jim O’Hanlon: I’ve finally
made it to Heaven. This is so beautiful,
and I’ve worked every day of my life making sure I’d make it here to heaven,
and I’m now finally here. I really want to meet the big guy. Do you know who the big guy is? Kristin Saylor: Ah, they told you
I was a guy? That’s cute. JOH: Are you the receptionist? KS: Yeah, no. Hi, I’m God.
JOH: You’re God? KS: Yeah, welcome to Heaven.
JOH: Hi. KS: So, just a couple of questions
to make sure you really belong here. JOH: I’m the perfect Christian.
All my life I’ve been a perfect Christian. KS: Well, let’s see about that. So, first off, I just
need you to assure me that you have categorically rejected
any scientific teaching that contradicts even
one word of the Bible. JOH: Absolutely, absolutely. KS: Great. And then, do you, based
on the authority of scripture, accept the existence of talking snakes? JOH: I do, they’re in Genesis 2. KS: And what about talking donkeys? JOH: Numbers 22. KS: Unicorns? JOH: Numbers 23. KS: And what about hoards of suicidal,
demon-possessed, cliff-jumping pigs? JOH: The Gospel of Mark,
the fifth chapter. KS: Very good, I’m impressed. I have just one final question then,
before I let you in. JOH: Alright. KS: Did you do as I told you and sell all your possessions
and give the money to the poor? JOH: Well, I … Wait, what now? KS: Ah … yeah.
I said it twice, actually. JOH: Were you serious about that? KS: Very serious. JOH: Oh … JOH: You may think that there are people
who take the Bible too seriously, people who throw out anything
that contradicts the Bible – science, history … What this skit is asking you
to think about is maybe they’re not
taking the Bible seriously enough. Maybe they’re very serious
about the Bible, if they can use it to judge other people, if they can use it to shame somebody
or to punish somebody. But if the Bible was used
to turn back on themselves and they were to evaluate themselves
and examine their own conscience, if the Bible was to be humbling them, then they might not
take the Bible so seriously. These people say that they want
the Bible to be taken literally, in its entirety it should
always be literal, and that’s ridiculous, you can’t do that. When the Bble says, “God is our rock,
our sword, our shield,” when the Bible says,
“The Lord is my shepherd,” we can’t take those literally. But there are people
who are rigidly saying that the Bible needs
to always be taken literally. They think it gives it some kind
of force that they can use, that they can win arguments,
that they can settle the debate, by saying, “This is literal. It is cut and dried,
it is straight-forward.” They’re these people who believe
that they can overpower other people, with their argument,
by saying, “The Bible says it,” people in positions of great authority. Just last month, a US congressman
from District 1 in Texas stood on the floor
of the House of Representatives and said, “The government wants us
to forget about the Bible.” He says, “In the Bible, it says God
created the male and female, period. No questions marks.” So he’s got this idea that he doesn’t want
people talking about sexual orientation. He doesn’t want people
talking about gender identity as something distinct
from biological gender. He’s got this idea
that we need to just follow that without any ambiguity, without questions, just keeping the status quo. He believes that he can use that by saying the Bible
must be taken literally, and it settles his argument. These people have
bumper stickers that say, “God said it, I believe it,
that settles it,” which they could probably
shorten down to say, “I believe it, that settles it.” Because that’s what they’re saying, they want these things
to be cut and dried, and clear. It’s interesting that people believe they can take the Bible
to drive through their point of view, because the Bible doesn’t have
one point of view. The Bible does not speak with one voice. The Bible does not have
one definition of God. It doesn’t have one way of describing God. The Bible does not have one theology. We think if the Bible
could be consistent of one thing, it would be consistent
about describing God, about the language we use
and how we understand God. The Bible does not have
one definition of marriage. It doesn’t have one model of marriage. There’s no consistent ethic about
sexuality going throughout the Bible. The Bible speaks with these many voices. The Bible, really properly
speaking, is not a book. It’s an anthology. It’s really a library with a wide
variety of spiritual wisdom, things that have different ideas
and speak with different voices. The Bible has all these voices
and all these ideas throughout it. It’s not just one book with one point
that it’s trying to drive home. The Bible has these many voices. And there are many stories in the Bible, and many of these stories are told
from different points of view, from different perspectives
and different voices. KS: So given the amount of media
attention the Bible has received recently with respect to issues of gay marriage,
gender-neutral bathrooms, it would be easy for us
to come to the conclusion that the Bible has a lot to say
about homosexuality, and it ain’t good. But in reality, if you take
the Bible as a whole and look at, percentage-wise, how much of the content is devoted
to the issue of homosexuality, it is less than one percent. Statistically speaking,
it just is not a priority for the Bible. And the few stories that do speak
to the topic of same-sexuality are often taken out of proportion
and out of context. One of the most famous examples of these
texts is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, which some of you might be familiar with. It’s a story that has become famous because of anti-sodomy laws
that exist in some places still today and this concept of sodomy
that is derived from this Bible story. And “sodomy” is a word
that we throw around a lot, without necessarily
understanding what it means. We might have an idea
that it refers to gay sex, that it’s somehow bad, when in reality, it has
a very specific definition, and it is any sexual act
that is not procreative. So that opens the door wide to a whole host of things
that are not limited to same-sex couples. And that’s interesting to remember in a context where our society loves
to take the Bible out of context and use it for its own purposes. So what does the story
of Sodom and Gomorrah actually say? Once upon a time,
there was a city called Sodom, and there were two men traveling, trying to find a place to stay
in the city limits. They were having zero luck. They were about to give up
and spend the night in the town’s square. But a man named Lot took pity on them and let them crash
at his house for the night. Good thing he did, because not five minutes later,
the town mob came banging on his door, demanding that he bring his guests out,
that they might “know” them. Now, when the Bible says
“know” in this context, it’s not saying, “Hey, nice to meet you!
Let me shake your hand!” No. It’s, “Let us know them intimately,
sexually,” and in this case, violently. We’re talking in this case
about gang rape. And the story continues. Lot begs the mob, “Please, I beg you,
do not act so wickedly.” He then turns and offers his two
virgin daughters to the mob in exchange, which is all kinds of twisted. And then, the story ends when God
gets angry at the whole situation and destroys the whole
city for their sins. But what exactly was the sin of Sodom? Was it men sleeping with men, or was it an angry mob
banging on a man’s door and demanding to rape his house guests? And you can see how quickly
we leap to conclusions and how quickly that begins
to affect our judgment. JOH: So what does the story say?
And what does the story not say? The story describes an entire city
that converges upon one house for the purpose of raping
these two people. Does that mean that this is
a story about two adults who want to have
a consenting relationship, who want to publicly affirm
a monogamous relationship and their commitment to each other? How does it really connect it all to that
when its talking about an entire city that wants to have
a mass rape of two people? So you see this man, Lot, who sees this,
and he stands against them, one person who stands
against the entire city. He sees these two people,
he sees they’re vulnerable, they’re traveling, they’re far from home, they’re people who could be preyed upon, they’re foreigners, they don’t belong. So they’re weak and susceptible
in so many ways, and he wants to protect them. And when the city says, “Let them come out
here because we want to know them,” he begs them not to do this wicked thing. And when he stands against the whole city, they then turn onto him and say,
“You know what, Lot? You haven’t been here all that long.
You’re not really one of us. You don’t have the same beliefs like us.” So this is Lot, a man who himself
is vulnerable in this situation, who’s going to put himself out for someone
who is even more vulnerable than he is. And as we heard, he says,
“Take my daughters instead,” which raises the issue of: why would someone insist
that you have to literally read this and you have to unquestionably
apply the morality in a way that you must be obedient to it? So when the Bible talks about
what was the sin of Sodom, you can look throughout the Bible: over hundreds of centuries,
it keeps referring back to Sodom and how bad Sodom was
and how wicked Sodom was, but what is it specifically
that the Bible is talking about? Is it talking about same-sex partners, or ir it talking about violence
and violating people sexually? There’s a part in the Bible,
just a little bit further, in the book of Ezekiel, where it talks about
what Sodom did that was so wrong. And it says in Ezekiel, “Now, this was
the sin of your sister Sodom.” And it’s saying “sister”
just in a metaphorical way. These cities are all in a location.
They’re sister cities. They refer to the population as daughters. But they’re talking about the city
and its population. “Now, this was the sin
of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were overfed,
arrogant and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did
detestable things before me.” So it seems this thing
has become something that’s used to target a minority group, to say that this minority should be
shunned and they should be punished, when it’s talking about how the people
who are weakest among us, the people who need us the most,
the most vulnerable people among us, are people that we need
to be thinking about. So when people look at the Bible, they need to think about
all these different literary types: love songs, poems,
different kinds of literature, people dealing with big life questions. There’s all different kinds
of literature and genres. And when we read something in the Bible,
we need to put it in its literary context, we need to put it
in its historical context, understand who these people are
and what the time period was. KS: So when we read the Bible
in our own context, especially in light
of the recent attention that issues of the LGBTQ
community have received, it’s important to do two things. And the first is exactly
what we have been doing: to take the texts that do talk
about homosexuality, few though they may be, and really dig into them
and read them for ourselves and ask, “What do they really say
and what do they really not say? And then, what does that mean?” And the other thing we can do
is read the Bible in context, as a whole, in all of its multiple
and diverse voices, and ask, “What counter-voices could we lift up
that might actually be queer-positive?” Now, that’s different from saying that the Bible somehow
has a hidden gay agenda, because it doesn’t. It really doesn’t have any agenda. But there are different voices that stand in contrast to the ones
that the media would have us lift up. One of the most powerful examples,
I think, is from the book of Acts, which is basically the story
of the earliest years of Christianity, in which people like Peter and Paul
are going out into all the world, sharing what they’ve learned
and been taught by Jesus and encountering on the way a whole lot
of diverse and unexpected scenarios. And one of those is when the apostle
Philip is on a road, traveling somewhere, and he meets and Ethiopian eunuch. Now, what is that? Well, Ethiopian, in this case, is just shorthand for anyone
from Africa, south of the Sahara, with dark skin. So there you go:
an outsider on one count, because of the way he looks. And a eunuch is a man
who worked on a royal court and had undergone ritual castration, so that he could serve the monarchy without posing the threat of producing
male heirs who could usurp the throne. Now, eunuchs, in Judaism
of that day and age, were not full members of society. They were subject to all kinds
of ritual prohibitions, they were excluded … So again, you have a double outsider
in this Ethiopian eunuch. And what happens? Well, he and Philip get to talking,
one thing leads to another … Next thing you know, the eunuch is saying, “Hey, look! Here’s a pool of water
on the side of the road. What is to prevent me from being baptized, from becoming a full member
of this community, right here, right now?” And Philip says, “Sure. Let’s do it.” He doesn’t interrogate him
about his sexual practices. He doesn’t say, “Oh nah,
you’re not qualified.” No! He just welcomes him on the spot. And that story is a powerful counter-voice that values inclusion and acceptance
of someone who, in today’s context, might have some parallels
with the transgender community. Another example that I’d like
to leave you with – there are many – is from the letter to the Galatians, which is a very early piece
of Christian correspondence in which Paul is describing
what the afterlife is like. And he says, “In Christ,
there is neither Jew nor Greek, there’s neither slave nor free, and there’s neither male nor female.” So he’s radically just erasing
all the boundaries and distinctions that we put up among ourselves and saying, “In the end,
none of that matters.” So my question to you is:
what does it mean to say that, in Christ,
there’s neither male nor female, in a world where people
are insisting that the Bible says, “No, actually there is male and female,” and that affects what kind
of bathrooms we have and that affects what kind
of marriage we have? And in reality, what the Bible says
is much more complex than that. JOH: And why do we even care
what the Bible says, these stories from
thousands of years ago? If you look at our society, we’ve made
so much progress just in this generation, in terms of our understanding
of homosexuality. The medical community,
just a generation ago, was describing
homosexuality as a disorder. They’ve rewritten those manuals to no longer describe
homosexuality as a disorder. Now, it’s one of a different
range of sexualities. Legally and politically,
we’ve come so far. Just in the past couple of decades,
just in this time now, just in the lifetime
of these high school students, the Supreme Court has overturned
laws that were against sodomy, the Supreme Court’s said
there’s marriage equality. Why would we go back thousands of years, tens of thousands of years, when we’ve made so much progress
just in the recent time in our understanding of human sexuality? The reason is because
people still continue to base their values and their morality
on these old scriptures. People still look
to their religious traditions and to the understandings they get
from these religious traditions, they continue to undergird, they continue to be the foundation
of our science, of our laws. So we need to understand what are the beliefs and values
that people are coming with. And we see there are still people whose beliefs and values
lead them to discriminate. This congressman who stood on the floor
of the House of Representatives last month doesn’t want people talking
about equality for same-sex couples. He doesn’t want people
talking about gender identity as something that can be defined
different from biological gender. And he wants to use the Bible
because he believes he can use that to push across his point and tell people
that they can’t argue with that. We need to be looking at the Bible and understanding
the values and the morality that people should be getting from it, because people continue to discriminate
and people even continue to use violence. We see gay and lesbian and transgender
and homosexual people, young people, high school people,
continuing to be discriminated against, harassed, ridiculed, tormented. We continue to see stories
like Tyler Clementi, 18 years old. Just back in 2003, his roommate thought it would be fun to videotape him
having an intimate moment. He ended up taking his own life. And there are many stories like this,
so that’s why this is important. In Greenwich Village, just in 2013,
a man went around, harassing people, giving people a hard time because
he thought they were gay or lesbian, confronting them and tormenting them. Finally, he goes up to one man and starts to interact
and to have an altercation with him, until he finally takes out
a gun and shoots him. Mark Carson, 32 years old,
killed because he was gay, walking in Greenwich Village, just a few blocks away
from the Stonewall Inn, where the modern
Gay Rights Movement began. That’s why these scriptures matter, and that’s why it matters
that we look at them and that’s why it matters
that we take them seriously. We take these stories seriously, and we take the lessons
that we draw from them seriously. We see the story of Lot, a man who stands against an entire city that believes that they can discriminate
against people because they’re outsiders. He stands against them
for their discrimination, he stands against them
because of their violence, because they want to violate
these people sexually, and we see this as a very serious story
for us, that we can learn from today. And that’s why we stand here today, saying that we believe
that being gay is not a sin. Period. Thank you. (Applause)

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100 Comments

  • Gad Damion says:

    the unicorn is a rhino

  • Matt C says:

    We are all missing the forest for the trees. Why are we still applying a Bronze Age book, written by primitive people, to the modern world? Why are we bickering over an ancient text that is archaic and irrelevant? We only believe in Christ because Christians spread and forced their beliefs on every land they conquered in blood and violence. It’s time for everyone to wake up and understand that religion has no place in our world.

  • Wayne Greaves says:

    This sounds good but it's not balanced. The two speakers are more for Homosexuality, than what the Bible says God Says it An ABOMINATION AND THAT IT…. AGAIN SOUNDS THEOLOGICAL BUT THEY'RE NOT SPEAKING THE TRUTH, OF THE WORD OF GOD. PERIOD. FALSE TEACHING DRAMATIZE…

  • Christiangirl737 says:

    Read Romans 1:27

  • Christopher Young says:

    Numbers 5:21 is gods direct instructions for how to apply an abortion.

  • rob yohn says:

    The Bible is a book. I disagree with much of its content. I believe in judge ye not, lest ye be judged. Love thy neighbor as thineself. I believe the bible to have myths and fiction in it and that much of it was invented to create division and hate.

  • rob yohn says:

    Christocentricism is the believe the Christianity is superior to other beliefs.

  • יהוחנן לואיס says:

    4:38 he said the Torah (Bible) does not have one point that it is trying to drive home.

    The Bible actually says the opposite. One God, One Truth One people, One Messiah and One Way.

  • Dreadful Spiller says:

    If they don't believe the bible why are they ministers?

  • TheMagicBean says:

    i agree that we as Christians should accept anyone if they truly want to be Christian but they should realize what they are doing wrong, why they are wrong and they need to DO something about it

  • Katlego Mabaso says:

    So she's saying, given the overall texts that address the sin of homosexuality are less than 1%, they are therefore invalid??

  • Mary Lancaster says:

    HERESY AT ITS BEST!

  • Christian Celtic Warrior says:

    Judge not least yea be judged and love your neighbour as yourself

  • Christian Celtic Warrior says:

    But the bible does say about lust a few times

  • GLORY IN THE 3RD says:

    So I guess if the Bible says murders wrong only one time go ahead and start killing?

  • Kimm Lynch says:

    John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another." We are all brothers and sisters in Christ.

  • Dogbertforpresident says:

    The bible is full of ridiculous stories and beliefs. We do not get our morality from the bible, we get it from thousands of years of evolving into social creatures that form behavioral norms and beliefs which encourages probable outcomes that ensure reproducing and sustain the population.

  • Shane McCarty says:

    People will always twist the Bible so it makes their lifestyle acceptable. Get your King James out and read it not your watered down version

  • Paradox Asma says:

    Well the thing is you either believe in the bible or you don't, you can't say "I am a vegan but i eat meat some times for sure".

  • Pat Falvey says:

    When I think about the Bible I think about the God of the Bible, his only begotten son Jesus Christ, now if you took this message and you tried to get away with it let's say you where doing this about Islam and the Qur'an. I just wondered how long you brilliant interpretation of the word of God would be allowed up… I would like to let you know as you have a twisted way of quoting the word of God. Let me not upset anyone so just to say it's perfectly okay with Mohammed and Islam for you to teach this,by the way the word of God Trump's anything any government will say are do. So because in Ireland our government said it's ok to have an abortion well I suppose once a government says it's okay then we should just throw our Bible out and listen to what ppl like yourself and your friend has to say. Now before anyone thinks I'm anti anything look I'll include everyone in this God Love's every person on this Earth and that is 100% true read the Bible and you'll understand what I said is true so without upsetting anyone I guess I should just go along with the government across the world and there own agendas so Abortion is cool taking the life of an perfectly healthy unborn baby is ok how do I know this because these people told me to trust our government. I'm no longer going to say Abortion is MURDER as for the LGBT COMMUNITY WELL I BETTER EMBRACE THIS also so without further questions are looking at what the Bible actually tells me congrats and I done something silly I made a mistake one minute I'll rectify that I should have put the LGBT+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ PLEASE don't be upset if I left anyone out with all these plus signs because when I'm trying to all inclusive well today I might have enough plus sighs but I might wake up tomorrow and find I've offended some group because they just added another 10+s to be more inclusive.. I guess these ppl just told me, I got the Bible all wrong and there interpretation of the word of God is the true meaning of it

  • Kage Sama says:

    As much as I would love to believe them the bible is adamantly against LGBT people. Well, people in general. No use arguing against it.

  • Patrick Jones says:

    Nonpublic talk does'nt leave marks or scars on people.

  • Len Zi says:

    These comments show that christianity is very far away of understanding god.
    I prey this will become better soon.

    Thank you for this TED.

  • David Tallent says:

    There are no sins that the cross doesn’t cover, the cross is the end. The work is done. For those that believe that some can’t be saved for any reason please reply with that the cross is for. Even our lord forgives the people who crucified him forgive them they know not what they do… .

  • Joyful Noise says:

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

    9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, NOR EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

  • A M says:

    Wow, 100% wrong. These arguments have been addressed over and over again. What a pile of moral relativistic leavings. Next they'll tell us it's ok to murder your baby, oh wait….

  • Ephrem Berhanu says:

    Jesus said love your neighbor . "Love" as in show affection to one another not sleep with one another.
    And bible does says homosexuality is a sin.

  • The Official Film Diva says:

    No!! What is happening is YOU are trying to make the Bible to fit YOUR lifestyle. If you're wrong you're WRONG! Point BLANK!

  • Denton Carter says:

    Lol before the even get deep they spit out everything wrong.

  • Kayla Whidden says:

    They both look very uncomfortable with their deceived ideas. They are not sharp. Stop twisting God's word.

  • Joyful Noise says:

    To the woman who said that gender doesn't matter to God, this is false. God established men and women from the beginning of the bible. Genesis 1:27
    "27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
    No mention of LGBTQI+. Only male and female.

  • Mandy S says:

    Stating a fact that God has claimed to be so, through his word, is not judgement! You both are are blasphemous! God's word is cut and dry and very clear. God says he is not the author of confusion. This is false teachings and confusing to the lost! For those who need Christ, you must repent. Do not listen to false prophets like this. Read the word, pray and allow the Holy spirit to reveal the truth! God won't confuse you, neither will his words!

  • John Lennon says:

    False teachers

  • Abel O says:

    TEDx is full of atheistic communists who want to reign in the NWO. The blind leading the blind.

  • Nicky Price says:

    I love how people are saying these two are cherry picking the bible
    This is what Christians do
    Cherry pick to disenfranchise many in their communities
    They cherry pick just as much as Christians do
    The bible is just a book of stories
    That’s it

  • JAZZ Barker says:

    John 2:9-11

    9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. 
    10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 
    11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them.

  • Susan Carver says:

    These people are using the Bible to justify sin, twisting scripture to to justify their behavior.

  • tiffany toledo says:

    JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE “THEOLOGIAN” IN YOUR NAME DOES NOT MAKE YOU KNOW GOD. It just means you study HIM. This couple is one example of why people extract faith from religion. Yes, we hear you, but we are not bible illiterates! Sorry, you are effective to an audience who do not know GOD personally!

  • fant tasy says:

    Homosexuals destroying america.

  • Jenny Wilkins says:

    Jasher 9:25-51, a few verses from a book that was conveniently taken out of the Bible….sheds much light on this topic. A must read.

  • Galaxynoteuser Att says:

    Doctrines of demons.

  • D0omSh0cK says:

    This is completely false.

  • Lucca Lourencini says:

    Never seen so much hate in a Tedtalks video before…

  • River Bank says:

    It's interesting the God is supposedly against homosexuality, yet he created roughly 3.5% of the human population to be homosexuals, worldwide. I wonder why he purposely booby-trapped those people into a life that they cannot help living. …Oh right! Because it's a book written by humans thousands of years ago that tried to explain what they didn't understand, and it comes up short.

  • Angel Loya says:

    osea que estos intelectuales nos estan diciendo que la ideologia de genero esta bien y que la biblia no solo la aceptaba sino que la apoyaba

  • William Dager says:

    WHO wrote those scriptures? the 'bible' is a compilation of people interpreting what they did not hear from a person they never met.

  • travilicious says:

    What the Bible "really" says… Yeah…

  • John Carey says:

    i have no choice but to pray for these two and they they may see the error in their philosophy and theology. This very topic is condemned several times in both the Hebrew Scriptures and the new testament.

  • Jackie L. says:

    1:11
    What did you just call me?!

  • sonyee hallow says:

    Both of them appears to be siblings banging each other 🤦‍♀️😂 if y’all don’t phuck off with that bs😂😩

  • G Un says:

    You have a strange ability to twist the facts. You have diseases that people did not experience before; do not play with the fire.

  • Monica Merino says:

    The shorter dude said at the beginning that he thinks God's character isn't consistent in the bible. He discredits the bible, then he references that 'faulty source' to support arguments for the bible's condoning of homosexuality!!

  • Brian Mupaya says:

    this guy is not a pastor

  • alfredo ruiz says:

    These people have a agenda lol.

  • David Lane says:

    The VERY FIRST thing he says proves they’re not Christian. He said I made sure I WORKED everyday of my life to get to heaven. Salvation is based on faith alone, works based salvation isa false doctrine

  • Terry Lawrence says:

    The bible clearly condemn homosexuality behavior in the old testament ( Leviticus 18:22) and new testament (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)period. Trying to make fun of it will not change anything about it.

  • Shawn Betty says:

    This is the new world order right in front of our faces. So bold. We are headed towards a very dark and twisted society with men thinking they are women and women thinking they are men. I feel sorry for the kids.

  • Connor says:

    You can’t refuse to read a textbook and claim to know its contents.

  • R says:

    WHAT?? THESE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY?? THIS IS SO WRONG!! 100% FALSE TEACHING!!

  • hhh _ says:

    Sorry bible that people love who they love

  • Robert Itzin says:

    Helpful. It should be required viewing at fundamentalist/ evangelical churches. A more intelligent rendering of "what the Bible says about homosexuality" than buying a literal interpretation of the Bible hook, line and sinker.

  • GOD WATER USA says:

    I know this is pretending. Making GOD out to be a woman is not very good. There is a lot of issues in this video.

  • Sharon Young says:

    This is incredibly disingenuous… It's been a while since I've seen the Scripture twisted so much to support an agenda.

  • Stefan Bell says:

    My God! So much hate fired at this video. I’m appalled!!

  • ray bernard says:

    Why do we evan care what the bible says! Now spread those cheeks Im Father sodom

  • Fatima Mansoori says:

    There will be as many angles and interpretations to any historic context including this one as there will be as many philosophers and think tanks. And this is absolutely wrong to say that if a certain chapter weighs in fraction of a percentage means it is not important enough to god but if it wasn't important for god to mention he wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place.

  • Fatima Mansoori says:

    Also, for people who are interested in religion or anthologies with reference to religion should probably look into other Abrahamic religions as well for gaining more clarity.

  • Fatima Mansoori says:

    It has really been a poor attempt at contextualizing the bible in terms of recent trends.

  • Denis B says:

    So Sodom was America? Overfed. Arrogant. Didn’t help the poor. Did terrible things. Seriously though, lovely to hear people speak of the Bible with reason instead of literal belief.

  • mark montgomery says:

    IF THIS GUY BELIEVES WHAT HE SAYS ABOUT THE BIBLE IT'S CLEAR FOR HIM SENILITY IS SETTING IN, POOR GUY.

  • Barefoot Baptist says:

    Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the MEN which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may KNOW them.

  • Biblethumpr says:

    God does not change with the times, he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow, because governments and times change……….. Don't let these liars deceive you….

  • Raymond Ready says:

    Wrong!!! Good luck with your wrongness

  • Carmen Bograd says:

    wow ive never seen the word heresy be used as much as in these comments. people are clearly feeling very offended, gosh,

  • Musicmangm7 says:

    Next they will add explanations of UFO'S!!

  • PussyGalore says:

    The Bible – " The Bronze Age Goat Herder's Guide To The Galaxy " is man-made of dubious origins and anonymous writers of unknown dates. At best it was created for the educated and elite to control the illiterate masses. Spend your time listening to music instead.

  • Danny Price says:

    False Prophets

  • don oto says:

    I can't even be patient enough to finish watching these vile liars and half truths tellers. I pity those that sat under their voices

  • Christopher Hogan says:

    As a Christian, I decided not to watch any TED talks again. The last one with the story of David and Goliath they ruined and now they twisted this story..The LORD God showed His heart at the cross and you don't mention one word about the salvation in and thru Jesus Christ… Why do even preach your crazy stuff. What is the sense of your wrong teachings???

  • T J says:

    Try milk with a little less than 1% of strychnine. It matters.

  • First Last says:

    Seminaryand greek scholarship teaches this BS? What school?

  • DONNA SPINO says:

    These people are crazy demons

  • mp2tbnl says:

    Thanks for the tidbit about Philip and the Ethiopian. I've been in many an argumentative conversation with a self-righteous bigot and held my own by quoting the very tome they use to spill their vitriol and hate. One more arrow in my quiver.

  • Budokai 100mph says:

    HERETICS!!!!

  • Ed Anderson says:

    Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is an abomination
    Leviticus 18:22

  • Ed Anderson says:

    The Angels weren't helpless, remember they smote the men with blindness . And my biggest question is why did God destro Sodom and Gomorrah?

  • Ed Anderson says:

    Job chapter 39: 9-12 talks about the Unicorn

  • Ed Anderson says:

    Romans chapter one verses 18-32 shed alot of light on Homosexuality

  • Ed Anderson says:

    And many false prophets shall rise and deceive many
    Mathew 24:11

  • Ed Anderson says:

    Job 39:9-12 talks about the Unicorn

  • Ed Anderson says:

    Look up Ravi Zacharias on you tube, the Christian view of homosexuality, very imformative

  • Meta Noia says:

    Clearly the result of the post-modern learning institutes, steeped in ideological conditioning.

    Only blasphemers are accepted in today's popular post-secondary schools. Moral integrity is attacked and ousted.

    These speakers have embraced the spirit of antichrist.

  • Wilder Serdan says:

    Our moral does not come from the bible. Please, to all of you, read the bible and see what ridiculous book is.

  • Mary Lancaster says:

    I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6-7
    “Haven’t you read, “ he replied, “that at the beginning creator ‘made them male and female’ and said ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and two will be one flesh’? Matthew 19: 4-5

  • Rickus Kruger says:

    The beginning part was silly

  • Typical Taylor says:

    5:00

  • Chan Star says:

    You don't know my God Yahweh. He only has to speek it once.

  • Chan Star says:

    No anointing what so ever.

  • Ed Wood says:

    All liars will have their place in the lake of fire 🔥. I plead with you repent of your sins and turn to God.

  • Mandla Jiane says:

    This is nonsense

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