11
Oct

Sadhguru – universe was not made for you


sir. My name is Jimmy and I have two questions.
Basically, I don’t know much about… Sadhguru: Hey, I’m a simple guy, ask one
at a time (Laughter). Questioner (Jimmy): So I’ll shoot away with
the first one. You know so much about the universe, I’ve seen a lot of your videos on YouTube and you’ve talked about geometry and I saw
that video. The largest telescope upon earth is not able
to get a picture of the nearby galaxy, it’s so far. So I wanted to ask you why did god make things, which are not even visible to human beings, or we’re not able to travel there? Julie Gichuru: That’s a tough one. Sadhguru: Okay. That… That is a clear message to you that the universe was not made for you (Laughter/Applause). Not just other galaxies, maximum amount of life on this planet itself you are incapable of even seeing it. Yes. Because maximum amount of life on this planet
is microscopic actually. Yes? Do you know, just on your facial skin, there are eighteen-billion bacteria right
now crawling around (Laughter)? Really. Aren’t you glad you don’t see it (Laughter)? So this idea… this idea that existence is human centric has caused the maximum amount to damage. We believing that this creation were made for me to enjoy
this, to exploit this… Our science, as we know it, is just this – how to use everything in the universe for
our well-being. Well, we have learnt how to use even an invisible
atom. Do you know, nobody has seen an atom, even in an electron microscope? Nobody has seen it but we know how to use it. We know (Laughs) how to make a bomb out of
it (Laughter). So, we have learnt to use everything including
human beings but we have not come to well-being, isn’t
it? All this aspiration, only in pursuit of well-being but well-being has not happened. Because you must understand, human experience is generated from within
you. Whether it’s joy or misery, it happens from within you. Agony or ecstasy happens from within you. Everything that you ever know happens from
within you. Everything that you ever experienced happens
from within you. At least what is happening from within you
(Laughs) must happen the way you want it, isn’t it
(Laughs)? Right now, we’re talking too much about the world not happening your way. I am glad the world is not happening your
way (Laughs) because if the world happens your way, where do I go, hmm (Laughter)? The world is like this, it happens little bit my way, little bit your way, little bit somebody else’s way, it’s all right. But right now, the biggest problem is, this one (Referring to oneself) is not happening
your way. That is the big problem, isn’t it? If this one (Referring to oneself), yourself, if you happened hundred percent the way you
want yourself to be, would you keep yourself bliss… blissful
or miserable? The upper regions must tell me (Laughter)
– blissful or miserable? You must… Everybody must say something, I’m going to bless you right now (Laughter). Blissful. This… Your choice for yourself is very clear, that you want highest level of pleasantness. What you want for your neighbor may be debatable
(Laughter) but what you want for yourself is very clear
to you. But why is it not happening? Simply because it’s not in the direction which you’re
looking, that’s all. Instead of turning inward, you’re trying to fix your happiness by fixing
the world. Fix it as much as you want, this (Referring to oneself) will not get fixed. If this (Referring to oneself) wants to…
has to be fixed, this has to turn inward. This is what yoga means. Tools for transformation means transforming
yourself, not fixing somebody else. A revolution … You know, like at one time, we said (Laughs) For Isha, this is what it used to be – “Welcome to the silent revolution of self-realization.” People’s idea of a revolution is – “I want you to change.” “I want you to change” is the source of all the problem on the planet,
isn’t it? “I am willing to change” – this is a revolution. If you say, “I am willing to change…” In your home, in your workplace, in your society, in your country, you say, “I am willing to change for what
needs to happen”, now this is a revolution and it’s a silent revolution. You don’t have to slaughter anybody, you don’t have to set fire to something, you don’t have to burn down things, you don’t have to pull down people. Change will happen as everything happens in nature and in existence. All the most fantastic changes that happened
in creation, are happening quietly, isn’t it? Yes? Though they talked about a big bang, you never had the bang (Laughter). It happened quietly, everything. Flowers blossomed quietly. You are born – such a big happening – even that happened quietly. Though your mother might have screamed a bit
(Laughter) but it happened quietly. But everything significant Planet is spinning quietly, sun is coming up quietly, isn’t it? Everything that’s of greatest significance
in the universe is happening quietly. Self-transformation also happens that way. Only thing is it needs to be focused in the
right direction. Right now, we want to fix everybody and everything
around us. We don’t want to transform this (Referring
to oneself) but the world… People are talking about world peace, world transformation. There is no world. There is only you and me, isn’t it? If you and me change, the world has changed. Julie Gichuru: You know, that’s such a powerful
message – stop pointing at everybody else and point within, start within, transform within. Sadhguru: Now immediately, the Indians think, “Sadhguru, where should I go?” You also come from that part, your… at least your father does (Laughter). You… “Should I go to Himalayas, should I go and stay in a cave?” For your information, all caves are taken
long time ago (Laughter/Applause). There is no cave accommodation left, so you don’t have to go to any cave (Laughs). You have to turn inward because whether you go to Himalayas or drown
in the ocean, you’re still the same person, isn’t it? Julie Gichuru: Do it where you are, start where you are. Sadhguru: Ohh. You can start it wherever you
are (Laughs), not where you are because again they will
think, “Sadhguru, I was not in Nairobi, so I didn’t do my yoga” (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: Start wherever you are (Sadhguru
laughs) Sadhguru: Yeah. Julie Gichuru: …it just doesn’t matter. I’m going to apologize to you because I see there were hands up and I’m sure there are hands on this side, so I’m going to ask for the mike to come
this way, I’m going to ask for another mike to head
upstairs. Yes, there’s one there . The lady in pink, please? And here. Yes, I see a hand at the back and one at the front. Thank you. Sadhguru: I find you highly prejudiced. Julie Gichuru: Oh no! Who did I miss this
time? Sadhguru: You… You choose… You choose…
You choose a lady and also pink (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: It’s because you look so
vibrant from here. Honestly, so beautiful. Go ahead. Questioner: Thank you very much. With lot of respect, I’d like to ask… I loved your topic, the future of the feminine. And very beginning, you changed it, it wasn’t anything to do with the woman, it was to do with the feminine. And you acknowledged the hardships women take in showing their masculine side. I would love to hear a little bit more about what you meant, future of the feminine, because when men behave slightly feminine, we discriminate them, we call them gayish. There’s lots of things I think that we need to learn from you about what is masculine, what is feminine, nothing to do with the gender. Julie Gichuru: Let’s come back to that and I have heard you speak about that before
in different engagements. And it is true that when a man embraces the feminine inside him, he’s attacked for it (Sadhguru laughs). Yeah, so it’s a difficult situation, you know? So let’s talk a little more about that, let’s explore that. Sadhguru: No, when a man expresses the feminine
in him, people admire him, hugely. If he acts like a female, then they make fun of him (Few laugh). Let’s understand this clearly because we… we are tending to mistake feminine and female. We are here today, you and me and everybody else is here today, we exist because a man and woman came together. Maybe some… I’m If you had a natural birth, I’m saying (Laughter). Suppose a stork dropped you, I don’t know about you (Laughter). I am a natural… My mother had a natural birth, so We are here because a man and woman came together. Now that you’re sitting here as a woman, does it mean to say that your father does not exist within you? He’s an Indian guy, you can’t obliterate him so easily (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: No, I definitely… Sadhguru: Very much there within you, isn’t
it? Now that I am sitting here as a man, does it mean to say my mother doesn’t exist
within me? Definitely she does, isn’t it? So, just thinking getting identified with a few reproductive
organs and making a big affair of being a man or a woman has to stop. This is coming from a certain crudeness of
existence because people’s minds have been corrupted by… by philosophies and ideologies, which told you what is pure, what is impure, what is okay, what is not okay, what is good, what is not good. So they’re only thinking about certain body
parts. Why is it even important to recognize somebody as a man or a woman? Why is it necessary? Why can’t you just look at a human being
as a human being? Why body parts are so important? If body parts are so important, at least choose the brain, hmm (Laughter/Applause)? Why are you so… such a fetish as what is there in somebody’s
pants? What’s your problem (Laughter)? Julie Gichuru: What is our problem? Sadhguru: This is… These things matter only in two places – in bedrooms and bathrooms (Laughter). Nowhere else should it matter, who’s got what in their clothes. Okay? Yes or no? Julie Gichuru: But what then is the problem? Sadhguru: This is because of very tremendous
religious teachings that have happened in the world, which cannot even accept the simple biology of a human being, you understand? They cannot come to terms with the simple
biology of who we are. This’s not a bloody secret. It is just that we want to conduct ourselves
in a certain way, that’s all. You think what is under your clothes is a
secret? It’s not a bloody secret. It is just that out of our culture and civilization, we learned
to handle our body in a certain way, that’s all. But somebody said this is right… this is wrong, this is evil, that is okay. See, the nature of the mind is such… Shall we do an experiment with all of you? Next ten seconds, nobody should think of a
monkey (Laughter). Why? You can’t keep the monkeys out for ten seconds
(Laughter)? No. Now they told you, “This is good, this is bad, don’t think about bad things.” Well, that’s a full-time job (Laughter). Otherwise, tri… You know, Africa is just out of its tribal
life unfortunately. In tribal societies, people lived without paying any attention
to anybody’s body parts, isn’t it? When, at a certain moment, something was on, it was on, otherwise rest of the time nobody cared about
the body parts. Now, we say we are civilized but people’s minds are full of body parts
(Laughter) – only certain body parts – and so we think man, woman, man, woman all the time. Stop this nonsense. It’s time you looked at human beings as
human beings. Only for certain type of activity, who is a man, who is a woman, becomes relevant. Rest of the time, it has
no relevance, isn’t it? So coming to the feminine, when we say feminine, we are not referring to the female in any
sense. There are only few things, which are compulsorily feminine about a woman. Rest of the things are wide open for her to make it whichever way she wants. Similarly, it’s only a few things, which are compulsorily masculine about a man. Rest of the things are wide open for him to make it whichever way he wants. Being… Activating my feminine does not mean I have to act pansy. No. I don’t have to act like a woman to express my feminine. In a very masculine way, I can find expression… In a very manly way rather, I can find expression to the feminine within
me. Can’t I mother somebody as a man, I’m
asking? Have you not done it, many of the men? In a very masculine way, have you not mothered? Yes or no? In a very… In a very female way, have you not fathered? So, let’s take this off. In the existence You must understand this When… Most of the yoga that she was talking
about, the… the housewives are taking up from the
TV station (Laughs) and they’re becoming yogis or yoga teachers, they’re talking about hatha yoga mainly. Hatha yoga has become as popular as it’s
become because it’s a rebound from the American
coast (Laughs). Julie Gichuru: From America? Sadhguru: Yes, it has to go across Atlanta, hit that land
and come back, suddenly everything becomes sacred (Laughter). I’m saying (Laughs) I am saying even a kindergarten child today
would know that this human body, it needs oxygen and it expels carbon dioxide. Yes? Even a child would know. But somebody bottles carbon dioxide and says, “This is the real thing” and the entire world drinks it simply because it comes from the… across the Atlantic. So we must understand (Laughs) what is the level of that influence (Laughs). So, people are all talking about hatha yoga. Let me explain what is hatha. Ha means sun, tha means moon. These are the two fundamental dimensions of masculine and feminine influence upon us. Sun is the symbolism of masculinity, moon is the symbolism of femininity. In this context, we are all born here and here only because our mother’s bodies were in sync with the cycles of the moon. If our mothers did not sync with the cycles
of the moon, we wouldn’t be born. Yes or no? So, the feminine is connected with the moon and the masculine is connected with the sun. Or another way of looking at it is, we are looking at the solar system as a potter’s
wheel, which churns up this body. If, let us say, the earth decided to speed up, okay. Like your Wi-Fi speed, internet speed, you want more speed. Speed doesn’t mean you’re on an automobile, or a motorcycle or something anymore, it means internet speed, okay (Laughter)? When youth say speed, they don’t mean motorcycle or something
else, they mean (Both laugh) speed. So, let’s say the planet decided to speed
up. If it did speed up, you will see most of the life that we know
on this planet will disintegrate. We are like this only because this entire solar system is going in a certain
way. We are a consequence of that. So, this is like a potter’s wheel and we’ve
churned up like this. So in this potter’s wheel, there are many… the see… entire system is playing a certain
role in the making of this body. In this, the moon plays a little more significant
role in the body of the feminine or the female. Because of that, we say feminine is dominant
in her, compulsively feminine she is on that aspect. And the role of the sun is bigger in the man’s
system. Because of that, we say he’s a male or masculine. There is a certain element of compulsively
masculine stuff in him. So one is outgoing, another is receptive. Sun is outgoing, moon is a reflection for us. Our experience of moon is a reflection. You wouldn’t have seen it unless it reflected,
isn’t it? Unless it reflected sun’s light. Now because we have gotten into such a crudeness
of mind, because somewhere we divided the universe fundamentally because of religious thought
in the world, that something is god, something is devil, something is good, something is evil, something is virtue, something is sin, something is high, something is low – because we divided everything like this, we also divided masculine and feminine, or male and female. Now once we divide, we have to discriminate which is superior to which. Now, because whoever is ruling the world, naturally they say, “We are superior to you”, all right? If you rule the world tomorrow, you will say, “We are superior to you.” I’m saying both are crude and stupid. This is two pieces of the same thing. Now you want to make one above the other, you will miss the essence of life. You… If you make a man superior to a woman, you’ll miss life, if you make a woman superior to man, you’ll miss life. If you want to know life, you… As I said earlier, you do not look up to anything, look down on anything, you see everything just the way it is. Suddenly you will see everything the way it
is and everything is relevant. If we had seen this, we wouldn’t have slaughtered the animals, we wouldn’t have ripped the trees. We would have understood that all this is
very much a part of our life, isn’t it? Yes or no? We would have clearly understood and everybody understood till you got educated
(Laughter/Applause). Every tribe in the world understood, everybody who lived with nature understood that tree is as significant as me, without it I cannot live – is not some new environmental knowledge that you got because you got PhD in environmental
sciences. Every human being knew this. But now we got educated. That means we got stuffed with information and our intelligence took a backseat. Julie Gichuru: In this environment, before we leave and go to the next question, I will then pose the question, the theme of tonight, which was what is the future of feminine? In this environment, Sadhguru (Sadhguru laughs), what is the future (Laughs) of the feminine? Sadhguru: See, one thing we must understand
– today, women have access to many things to which they did not have access to, in the past. Not because of some great evolution that happened
in human consciousness, it is simply technology technology, which has leveled the playing
field. Otherwise, believe me, don’t believe that suddenly everybody is
evolved and they brought up the women and gave them
everything, no. Because of technology, brawn does not rule anymore. The power of the muscle is not so important
anymore because technology has leveled it. If you had big muscles at one time, you were a big man because your muscles were the most useful
aspect of who you are. Today, if you have big muscles, we will give you a menial job to do. We won’t make you the boss. Yes? There was a time, whoever had the biggest muscles, he was the boss. Now if you have big muscles, we make you stand at the door (Laughter), we don’t even let you in. You may make a good bouncer (Laughter). So, because of this, women have come up, but not feminine. Feminine will not come up, unless in our education systems – this is important because you’re involved
with this – in our education systems, we have to make music, dance, art, creativity as important as science, technology, mathematics, whatever else. If you don’t make this equally important Generally, that art class is a damn useless
class that you somehow go and do something and come
off. You don’t go to the art class the way you
go to a math class. Yes? It is just one more damn thing that you’re
supposed to be done with. No. Till you make art, music, everything else, which which involves a certain creativity, which is concerned about the aesthetic of
life, not just the utility of life A woman is useless if you think in terms of
utility. It is the aesthetic. She is the flower of human species. Now, flower is useless for somebody who is thinking in “Let’s grow the vegetables. Why flowering plants in the garden?” Yes. Let’s grow vegetables, fruits, what we can
eat, it will nourish us. What does the damn flowers do? They won’t do anything. I’m telling you – this’s an extreme thing I’m telling you but do not… do not take this for granted because… If… If men could exist without
women, you should not be surprised if large scale
slaughter happens. They still can’t live without them. That’s the reason why they’re keeping
them alive (Laughter). Yes, I know this is an extreme thing I’m saying. But I’m telling you, as long as our attitude is in terms of what is useful, what is not useful, what is not useful get rid of it, this is where it’ll go. Not that entire world will go that way but people will start behaving in those terms. It may not actually physically happen but it will start happening in human mind
– what is not useful to you, get rid of it. And in this, the maximum beating will be taken by the women
of the world. So it’s extremely important, the aesthetic of life is as important as the
utilitarian aspect of life. What is useful and what is beautiful is equally important. If this doesn’t come into every child’s
mind through our education systems, feminine will have a hard time to survive
(Applause). Julie Gichuru: You know, there is some good
news, I think this discussion comes at the right
time. Many of us know that the… they’re trying to review the curriculum
in the education system and there’s been a refocusing now on going to the aesthetics, the talent, the art. Sadhguru: Yeah, but the problem is right now, if your children start learning art, music
and start enjoying their life, the Indians will do information technology and they’ll go ahead (Laughter). Tch, I’m saying Julie Gichuru: And leave us behind. Sadhguru: Yes, see that is the problem. Right now, the world is on a race. Nobody knows what we are racing towards. Anybody, who looks at it, can see we’re racing towards a disaster. If we’re thinking ourselves as the last
generation, of course we’ll win. But if we’re thinking of a world as a continuum and we are just a pop-up on this planet, all right? We are a two second pup-up on this planet and we’ll pop-out. If we understand this, then we know we’re racing towards a disaster. If we don’t slow down, there is no other way. Slowing down will not happen because human aspirations cannot be controlled. Only when your aspiration is finding a genuine
expression When I say genuine expression – see right now, whoever you are as a human being, you want to be something more, isn’t it? If you try to be something more in a very
physical way, we call this sexuality. What sexuality means is, what is not you, you want to make it a part of yourself. That’s the effort. Well, it never succeeds. For a moment, it feels like a success, after that it goes away. If you attempt the same thing emotionally, we call this love. What you’re calling as love is the same
thing. What is not you, you’re trying to make it a part of yourself
in an emotional sense. If it finds a mental expression, it gets labeled as greed, as ambition, as conquest or simply shopping (Laughter). What is not you, you’re trying to make it a part of yourself. If it finds a conscious expression, we call this yoga. What is not you became a part of you in your
experience because you consciously did it. And this can be kept up, this can be lived through every moment of
your life. It is not a one moment experience, it is a living experience, that you experience everything as yourself. Yoga does not mean twisting yourself, yoga does not mean hanging upside down, yoga does not mean convoluting something – no. The word yoga means union. That means you learnt how to erase the boundaries
of your individuality. Because right now, when you sit, you are this. This is me, that is her, all right? But a transaction is happening on many levels. Let’s just take the breath. What you exhale, the trees are inhaling. What the trees exhale, you’re inhaling. One half of your breathing apparatus is hanging
out there (Few laugh). So you are not such a solid state. If you don’t have too much intelligence
to look at all the other dimensions, at least this you can see. If you don’t understand, hold your nose
for two minutes, you will clearly understand what I am saying
(Few laugh). You are not an existence by yourself. This is a living reality. In this, you have blown your bubble. And the creation is so magnanimous, for a miniscule, microscopic nonsense like
you, it has given you a fantastic sense of individuality. I’m… I’m not trying to depreciate you. I want you to understand, in the space of this cosmos – nobody knows where it begins, where it ends
– in this cosmos, the very planet, the very solar system is a speck. In that speck, this Planet Earth is a super speck. In that super speck, this Nairobi is a micro super speck, all right? In that, you are a big man, hmm (Laughter/Applause)? I’m saying… I’m saying this is a serious loss of perspective. I… We have lost this perspectives mainly because of the so-called religious
thought that we have in this world. Somebody told you, you are the center of the universe. No, you… your very solar system, tomorrow morning if this solar system evaporates, nobody will notice it, that’s how small it is. Yes, you and me may be very big but before you and me came, there were countless number of people on this
planet. Yes? They were also very smart. They were also very big people in their times. Where are they? All topsoil, hmm (Laughter). Don’t wait till you become topsoil (Laughter). Or you think your friends will bury you real
deep (Laughter), fearing that you will raise from the dead. Julie Gichuru: And we shall all be top soil
one day, that is Sadhguru: Yes. So but if you realize this
now, that you are just a small pop-up One of the most fundamental things that we have is, as a generation, we have a baton to carry. How the world was given to us, how our parents made us, we should make the world little better for
the next generation (Applause). And not only that we must make the next generation little better
than us, otherwise we’ve failed as a generation (Applause). Julie Gichuru: Sadhguru, you know, I am so touched that you said that, because I started a hash tag some months ago, “Better than us” because it just hit me… Sadhguru: No, they… The problem is they already think so (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: They do. By the way, I think they already are. I think they already are. But can you imagine, if they can just be better than us, if we can just do better with them, that’s
a… that’s a good start. I’m so touched that you said that. I see hands up there, so gentleman in green up there, I see that. There was a hand right there at
the back somewhere? It’s gone? Okay, so there’s a lady at the front now. Sadhguru: Hey, it’s okay, you can pick on
the ladies. I won’t… I won’t comment again (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: Gentleman at the back first and then you go ahead, please. Thank you. Sadhguru: The microphone is not on. Julie Gichuru: I think can we give you a minute just to sort out your mike… Sadhguru: Okay, let her finish the question. Turn it on, please. Questioner (Santosh): Sadhguru, please accept
my humble pranam. My name is Santosh, I am born in India but working in Africa for
last fifteen years. In the beginning of the discussion, you started that we are so busy in doing things that does not matter – actually they should not matter – and we forget to enjoy life. Now when I look at myself, it has been almost fifteen years or little
more in profession. And we as professionals probably Say for example, like I’m into FMCG sector and I am creating a brand. To create how my product should look at it, I actually enjoy it. I enjoy the creativity in the product, in its distribution system, innovation that we bring into the business and sometimes it takes more than ten hours
or twelve hours of a day. Now for somebody, including some of members
of my family, probably that is something that is… that should not matter or probably I’m in a mad rush. But no, I’m enjoying it. Now my dilemma is, where to draw a line. For example, I… I will extend this little further. Sadhguru: No, no. You asked the question, you shouldn’t answer the question, it won’t be Julie Gichuru: Thank you. Thank you so much for the question. Sadhguru: (Laughs) Don’t think drawing the
line is your prerogative all the time. If you get too much involved with your fancy
product, your wife will draw the line (Laughter/Applause). We’re talking about the future of the feminine
(Laughs). Your family will draw the line. Sometimes it’s a line that you cannot cross
after some time (Laughs). Yes? And they may be on the other side of the line
(Laughs). yes Julie Gichuru: I read something that you said… Sadhguru: Yes. You may live in the same home but they may be on the other side of the line and you can never cross the line. Yes or no? Does it happen or not? Yes. So, if you love creating products, you can do it. Nobody is saying no. It’s just that everything that we take up needs a certain
level of involvement. Without involvement, many things won’t work. And first of all, you must understand, you got married and created a family to fulfill your needs, not to fulfill their needs. Your children did not come knocking on your
semen (Laughter). Yes? They did not come and knock, “Please make me happen” (Laughter). It’s your needs, which made these things happen. We must understand this because lot of people are becoming overly
this thing that, “I did this, I did this”, you know? No, nobody asked you that you should do all this. You did this to fulfill your own needs, isn’t
it? Now that your needs are maybe little bit fulfilled, now suddenly you become magnanimous and you think others… You know, “I don’t have such needs anymore, I just create a nice cosmetic product and
I’m doing great.” Yes, it is so. At different stages in your life, you have
different needs. But once you step into certain things, certain needs will hold you because certain needs that you touch demand
commitment. Tch, is it okay if I tell you a joke (Few
laugh)? It once happened, a man has a gala gala fight with his wife. That’s not a rare happening, you know. So, he didn’t know what to do, he stormed out of the house. It’s only after you walk out on the street, then you don’t know you don’t know where to go (Laughter). So he loitered here and there (Laughs) and
everywhere and went little outside the town. It was evening. He was just struggling. He has to find a dignified reason to get back,
all right? He’s left home. You need a good reason – either she must come searching, but if she doesn’t come, he must find a tch, a decent reason to get back. So he was loitering around, then he saw a sadhu. A sadhu means a wandering mendicant. So he was just settling down for the night
under a tree. He went and like you, did pranams, fell at his feet and said, “Sadhu Maharaj, biwi bahut pareshan de raha hai. Kuch sulabh upay hai to bolo The sadhu glared at him and said, “Bewakoof, sulabh ha… upay hai to mein kyon sadhu ban
ke yahan baith raha hoon He said… He begged sadhu… He fell at his feet and said, “My wife is giving me too much trouble. If there is an easy solution, please tell me, is there a simple easy solution?” So sadhu glared at him and said, “You idiot, if there was as simple, easy
solution, why would I be wandering around the world”
(Laughter)? I am saying, to create anything that you want, it takes a certain involvement. You created a family because you wanted a certain atmosphere around
you. If you were made like this, you were fine by yourself, that if you sit here, you’re complete by
yourself, you wouldn’t have bothered to make a family. You made it because… not because they need you, because you can’t live without it. Let’s be straight about it. Yes or no (Applause)? So now, suddenly halfway down, you suddenly change your tack. Tch, then they will know how to deal with it (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: Wow, then the line will be
drawn, the line… Our final question for the night because really it’s already time to wrap
up. I’m so sorry, I do see the hands and I really apologize. Please go ahead. Questioner (Mary): Good evening, thank you
for giving me the last question. You said something that is very interesting when you said that it’s our responsibility to make the generation
after us a bit better. And me… for me, as a young mother, it’s quite a concern. And I would like to ask you Sadhguru, if you have three tips to give me as a mum on how to protect my children from disconnections
of themselves while living in the society, what would it be? Julie Gichuru: Would you give us your name,
please? Introduce yourself. Questioner (Mary): My name is Mary. Sadhguru: Mary, the three tips are – involvement and involvement and deeper involvement (Applause) because… Julie Gichuru: And it never stops. It never stops. Sadhguru: No, if they do well, it stops. Julie Gichuru: Oh, really? Really? We have to let go (Sadhguru laughs)? Sadhguru: Whether you let go or… If you let go, it’ll happen in a beautiful
way, if you don’t let go, they will escape (Laughter). That is, if you brought them up well. If you brought them up in a helpless manner, they will stay with you, wingless birds, all right (Laughs)? Wingless birds have happened in some very
extreme climates. So, if your birds at home are wingless, that means you have an extreme climate. That’s what it means. Now, when I say involvement, involvement, involvement, you must understand this. This idea – you know, this is something that’s in common usage
– that “I was brought up this way, I was brought up that way or I was raised this way”, I thought we only raise cattle (Laughter). Human beings need not be raised. People say, “I was raised Hindu, I was raised Christian, I was raised this.” Nobody should be raised any way because when it comes to creation the way
it is For all the other creatures, nature has drawn two lines. Within that, they live and die. When it comes to a human being, nature hasdrawn only one line – base line, no top line. So the important thing is you should never raise them. Your business is just to create a loving, supportive atmosphere. “Oh, suppose they become something, which is not like me?” If they become like you, that’s a crime
(Laughter). They should become something that you could not imagine as a generation,
isn’t it? What should your children become? They should not become what you desire. They should become what you could not imagine. So do you have the courage to raise something that you cannot imagine
(Applause)? First of all, you need to understand, your children are not yours. You don’t own the life. It’s a privilege, they came through you, you enjoyed all that, you laughed with them, you cried with them, you played with them, you enjoyed all that. But they don’t belong to you. They only come through you. Just enjoy the privilege that they are with
you now and that’s about it. You don’t try to raise them, you just… Your business as a mother, is to create… Protect them against a few things, which can cause damage to them because you’re not the only influence, there’s a world influencing them. And for a modern mother because I have to tell you this because internet is a bigger influence than mother, or father or anybody for that matter
(Laughs). I know this may look like an archaic opinion but you will regret this in future if you don’t do this now. At least till they are twelve to fourteen
years of age, there is no need for these things, these gadgets. They must learn to use this gadget (Referring
to oneself). This (Referring to oneself) is (Applause)… This (Referring to oneself) is the most sophisticated
technology on this planet. This human mechanism, isn’t this the highest level of technology
in the universe that we know? There may be some alien, who’s better than
us, but we’ve not seen (Few laugh). But among what we have seen, this (Referring to oneself) is the highest
level of technology, isn’t it? The only problem with human beings is, they have not even bothered to read the user’s
manual (Laughter). Now what internet means is, what your school means is – the present level of schooling, what it means is – cram yourself with all kinds of things. You pay attention to everything, you know what is inside a frog, how a frog’s liver looks. What are you going to do with this? I’m saying every high school child is cutting open a
cockroach and a frog. What for? I… I’m saying, when you bring up children
with this level of cruelty, a live frog you open it up and enjoy his heart
beating, what are you made of, I’m asking? You call this science? I call this inhumanity. I call this absolutely senseless way of raising
your children. “Oh no, we learnt so much.” If they’ve learnt so much, that is enough, show it on a computer, how a heart beats. Where is the need for everybody to open up
a live animal, nailed to a piece of wood? A… Almost all of you have done it, right? Julie Gichuru: It was traumatic. I was traumatized. Sadhguru: No, I am saying, we call this education. A heartless education. What is the point of a heartless education? If you do this kind of education, you’ll ha… you’ll create a heartless
society, which you’re seeing in so many different
ways. We are training children to become brutes. See, if I can nail a frog to this wooden platform, cut him open when he’s still alive and screaming, and look at his heart and how it beats, I enjoy it and I fiddle around with his liver
– I’m saying, at another level, why can’t I pick one of you and do the same
thing? Tch, only because there is a law, I may be stopping, isn’t it? Yes or no? That’s what it amounts to. Isn’t it so? Only because there is a law against it, I may be stopping. A law cannot make us human beings. A law can control a few things in the society. This will not shape human consciousness. Because human beings experience themselves
in a certain way, we thought of bringing that in the form of
law. But law will not make a human being. If you are human, you will naturally be in a certain way. This must come forth. If want to bring up your children, if they’re still below five, six years of
age now, the best thing to do it not expose them to all these things. Expose them to life. When I say life, there is nature, there is insect, there is animal, there is worm. I’m telling you, these creatures are far
more important than you. Tomorrow, if all the insects disappear, you
have… the entire life on this planet will cease
to exist in about four to five years’ time. Do you know this? If all the worms disappear, the entire life on this planet will cease
to exist in approximately eighteen months to twenty-four
months. When somebody calls you a worm, you must understand, they’re saying you’re a very important
life (Laughter/Applause). But if all the human beings disappear tomorrow
morning, this world will flourish. So we must understand, we are not the only life, we are here as a product of all this life
evolving to this place. We must at least show some sign of evolution,
isn’t it? We are supposed to be the peak of evolution
on this planet. Should we not show that we are little better than them? But we are not showing this simply because we are screwed up with our scriptures, our textbooks, our teachings. No. Please expose them to life. Child will understand life perfectly well. They are better equipped to perceive life than you are because they are not structured in their head. They perceive life. Oh, what will happen to them? How will they earn a living?” If you allow a child to develop his body and
his brain to the fullest… There are ways to do it, I can’t go… elaborate on this now. But there are ways, where we can ensure the human body and the
human brain has grown to its full size, in every way. If you have a full grown body and full grown
brain, they will know how to deal with anything for
that matter. Half-grown brain but you’re highly educated, what is the point? You don’t know how to live. You may know how to extract something from
the world but you don’t know how to live. Isn’t that the fate of humanity right now,
unfortunately? They know how to extract something from everything. I want you to know, they are extracting protein from microscopic
bacteria but still human beings are not healthy (Laughs). So, we know how to extract but we don’t know how to live because we’re paying attention to everything, we are not paying attention to this (Referring
to oneself). This (Referring to oneself) needs attention
– not in the mirror, not through somebody else but inwardly, beyond this body, beyond this mind, to know what is the nature of my existence. The more you know about this (Referring to
oneself), the better you can handle it. Yes or no? “How far is it? What do I have to do for this? How far it is? Should I book a Himalayan cave for myself
or my child” (Laughs)? Julie Gichuru: It’s gone already. Sadhguru: It’s already gone, taken. It’s taken. No accommodation. It’s like this. Someone came looking for Isha Yoga Center
in Southern India. They came to a local village and asked a boy, who was sitting there, “How far is Isha Yoga Center?” The boy said, “It’s 24,996 miles.” They said, “What! That far?” He said, “Yeah, the way you’re going. If you turn around, it’s four miles” (Laughter). We have to turn around. In is the only way out (Applause). Julie Gichuru: Thank you so much. We have come to a close. But I… I do have a final question that I
think is so pertinent in an environment, where people are talking at each other so
much, you know. And I’ve done interviews for so many years
in the media and there’s always this need to have a confrontation,
you know, to one up, you know, “I’m going to one up the person I’m
sitting with”, rather than the need to listen to what the
next person is saying before you even respond. What advice can you give us as to how we start to better relate and speak
to each other, rather than at each other? Sadhguru: How to listen and still have TRP
(Laughter)? Julie Gichuru: T…? Sadhguru: Oh, you don’t know what’s TRP? Julie Gichuru: No, what’s TRP (Laughs)? Sadhguru: Oh, okay. It’s a rating system in India for each television
channel (Both laugh). So everybody has understood the only way to have TRP is all of us shouting at the same time (Laughs). If you listen, there is no TRP. Anyway, now that TRP is not relevant in Kenya (Laughs)… See, because this was about the… That lady, we’re talking about the feminine but she’s
on the phone. Hello (Laughter)? Julie Gichuru: She’s tweeting what you’re
saying (Sadhguru laughs). Yes (Laughs). Sadhguru: In the yogic culture, a woman is referred to as a sati. Sati means one who knows how to wait, because waiting was always considered a higher
quality than doing because all action has a beginning and an
end but waiting can be eternal. There is an eternal quality to waiting. Just by waiting, people transform themselves. There are innumerable stories in the yogic
culture, where women became great seers and sages without any spiritual practice. No religion, no nothing, simply waiting. And if anything beautiful has to happen in
your life, you have to learn to wait. Suppose you want to grow a garden in your
house. If you’re in a rush that you must have flowers tomorrow morning
in your garden, you just have to buy Singapore plastic flowers
and stick it (Laughter), otherwise you have to plant and wait. You want to deliver a baby, you have to wait, isn’t it? There is a waiting quality, you just have to wait. With a belly full, it may feel like an eternity but you wait. Simply wait, you don’t mess with it. You just wait because everything beautiful in the universe
happens like this. If you create the necessary conditions and
you wait, it will happen. The same goes for bringing up children. You create the necessary atmosphere and you
wait, they will grow. If you think you must fix, you cannot fix. You may know how to reproduce but you do not know how to fix your children, do you? Hello (Laughs)? If you have the love and commitment, you can
wait. Because to wait, you need an enormous sense of love and commitment
to something, otherwise you cannot wait. Only when you have a deep sense of love and
commitment, you can wait, otherwise you cannot wait. One thing that they’re learning today is inability to wait. 4G, not fast enough (Few laugh). There was a time, from India, many of these people, their forefathers travelled for over thirty
to forty-five days to reach the Kenyan coast, okay? To east… east… to reach East Africa. But today they’re here in five hours probably,
flat. But it’s too much time. They can’t wait anymore. I’m not saying we should not have faster
airplanes and faster cars, I’m always for speed that way (Laughs). But you must know how to wait. What you said as listening is just a part
of waiting. This is important, that we must inculcate this in our children
and in everybody’s life – how much time you spend in expression, you must spend at least equal amount of time
in perception. Right now, this is a world of overexpression. Like you said, somebody is tweeting what I’m saying. It doesn’t matter they miss the next thing but they tweeted the last thing – that’s important, expression. This is a world, where it’s all about expression
today, no perception. You will become hollower and all hollower
as days go by. You will know that galaxy Z67, what is the distance between that galaxy and
the Planet Earth. It doesn’t mean a damn thing whether it’s a million light years, or ten-million
light years or a billion light years. What does a goddamn light year mean to you,
I’m asking? It’s just a word, isn’t it? It’s just words and words. Our education has become just words and words
and words. Because they gathered so many words, they have to spill it all the time (Laughs). So one thing everybody can do is, in your life, at least one day in a month – this is very much a part of the Indian culture, I don’t know whether they’re still keeping
it – one day in a month, you’re supposed to eat little less and not
say anything, silent, simply, quietly. Not reading, not doing, simply quietly because you must spend enough time in perception before you express. Then your expression will be of a great quality. If you are all expression and no perception, then you have a life on Facebook (Laughter). Julie Gichuru: Thank you so much, please let’s give a warm round of applause
for Sadhguru. Thank you so much

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64 Comments

  • Sunthara Moorthi says:

    perfect

  • Micheline Perrault says:

    Open mind, open heart, open will…

  • Molly Whaitiri-Hingston says:

    Yes, you are so right e te matua, we exist because of earth and heaven, female and male energy that flows thru all life including te ira tangata – human:)Love your work!!!

  • Amol Nagavkar says:

    Waaaavvvvvv……….Great thought said by Great Guru…..The hole world need you Sadhguru ji

  • Manuela Alboreto says:

    thanks

  • Sujata Pathak says:

    Would like to know ..i want to expose my kids to nature at least once for a month every year …is it possible at Isha centre

  • MAKAVELIxxCODExRED says:

    That ending was deeply profound

  • johnnyBgood says:

    involvement and involvement and deper involvement…

    Dang Sadhguru Your the man!!

  • Haresh Chandwani says:

    Great satsang

  • Faisal Sikandar says:

    Amazing i am begger description to praise the whole ideas though since a few i was feeling that one should recognize ones internal power (energy). Now the conversion may be helpful for some positive mediations

  • Natalie D says:

    I love sadhguru and find him quite inspirational.. except on parenting. Where it's true that children are a gift that come thru us and do not belong to us. It is a flawed theory to not understand that children actually do need guidance and teaching to live in the civilized world and be free and self sufficient. As I listened to this and again sat in someone else's pee on the toilet seat ( my 7 yo son who needs consistent gentle reminding on how to use indoor plumbing facilities), this was again evident.Children are wild after they are helpless and need to be taught what is civilized and courteous and how to be self sufficient then given every opportunity to be free people under these guidelines. Sincerely, Mother to four children.

  • Jasmin Baalss says:

    Reply to Natalie: I am a teacher in a Kindergarten and I understand what you are saying and your concerns. But as teachers, parents and caretakers, we are here to guide children and protect them from any harm. They should not be left unattended. But very unfortunately we adults think that we know better than children and try to impose our teachings on them. We try to teach them manners and rules. We force them to do things that we think are good for them and the society. BUT most of the time we are completely wrong. Children have their innate wisdom and wisdom comes through genuine exploration of the world around them. They should be left on their own to do what they want to do and again we got to be there to protect them and not with them checking their every move. Sometimes we need to allow them to take certain risks too. We cannot save them all the time, they become dependent on us. I use to work in HK where the schooling and kindergarten system is extremely strict, almost no freedom given to children. Children hardly have time to play. They are taught and are forced to learn many subjects. This is a big crime as we are snatching their childhood from them. I now work in Germany and children here play all day long. There is no curriculum. Amayzing thing though I witnessed here is children here are more matured and wise than their counterparts in asian countries or other parts of the world. Simply because they explore and discover the world around them on their own. They have such a genuine curiosity to know everything and they keep asking questions. In contrast, in other parts of the world, where we force our limited teachings and beliefs onto them and force children to limit themselves and not allow them at all to expand and enjoy life in its purity. This is what Sadhguru means, leave children on their own and do not try to teach them. Yes, teach them the essential things like cleaning their hands, going to toilet, eating properly, etc. Even that has to be done by encouraging and motivating children and not as a forced rule. ThatΒ΄s it. But most importantly guide them, support them and love them.

  • Raymond Zadoorian says:

    You are not a drop in the ocean , you are the entire ocean in a drop .
    RUMI

  • Dumi Sani says:

    Great info for me. Thanks for posting.

  • Summondadrummin says:

    Mascu line and Femi nine =19 which = 10 equals 1

  • Ra Ka says:

    Wonderful … I can`t stop listening to Sadhgurus voice … so true πŸ™‚ …

  • John Hagi says:

    OMG best best best answer ever!

  • Pulkit Sharma says:

    I had this video in my watchlater. I usually watch a video and remove it from the list. but these 57 minutes deserve to stay for some time!! really, I shall watch this again and again. A lot to learn and understand in here. Pure Gold

  • P P says:

    Isn’t it

  • The Great Prophesized AntiChrist says:

    Yes it was made for us. As a conspiracy. Like God or Allah or whatever else. The Gods are hiding & testing humanity. But at the same time. They themselves are doing very bad evil mean twisted things… then they have the nerve to act as if they're perfect while others deserve damnation & suffering over stupid shit.. & being backwards & twisted, helping bad people & spitting at good people.

  • Sujay Naik says:

    Top class sadguru

  • vlad tepes says:

    i admire U for UR memory capacity, for UR judgement, and UR logic , but U mistaking so much talking about women , man's know's man's women know's women so ,i hope U smart enough to understand that, so let the women talk for them then we may B able to understand something.

  • R V C says:

    πŸ’›Luv U sadhguru ✌️& ✌️everyone❣️

  • barry bouse says:

    This Universe was indeed made for us human beings to enjoy, hence all the senses we have been gifted by our incredibly beautiful Creator, you my fellow human being ,in my opinion are making it up as you go along.Sat guru reveals true knowledge, Raj Vidya,what do you reveal.? another Mantra? Mantra has nothing to do with God, you need to seek out the True Satguru, and stop confusing people,and leading them astray.

  • bisnisldy1 says:

    Brilliant πŸ‘πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΎ

  • inox1ck says:

    The universe was not made for us, we are made for the Universe, that is, we evolved to survive in this universe

  • Lam Tong says:

    What sadhguru you are talking about unversel not belong to anyone but haven also part unversel Muslims clams haven and unversel belongs to tham 72 virgin streaming there

  • ** says:

    Ya true… the universe was not created for a pest like you

  • Enkhe Bathsaihan says:

    But we are created for the sake of the Universe. Isn't it that so πŸ˜‰

  • Enkhe Bathsaihan says:

    I like it when I watch Sadhuru's videos on youtube I see and I feel the same ideology within me that make me feel a little bit better about myself every time

  • Nilesh Aher says:

    Great..
    No words to express my gratitude
    Simply Pranam Sadguru ..

  • Gas Mask says:

    painful audio quality

  • Anupam Seth says:

    Universe was created by the highest form of energy or force called God. We are the smallest byproducts of this universe who need to live in harmony with each other for a period of time between birth and death. We pray to messengers of God who taught us how to be humans and behave in harmony with nature and each other. It is very clear to this Devine and intelligent soul called sad guru. I enjoy listening to him for his intellectual talk and great sense of humor.

  • Katelyn Morgan says:

    Having little choice but go after to do what was in my power to protect my younger sisters so he was never alone with them. Only in my 30’s did I tell someone, my mom & my sisters. I want to be whole and let go of this experience when I was just 5 yrold? Idk he’s gone now so I never Jane to see him
    Again I don’t want to
    Alienate family because of what he did to me as a child while he was an adult

  • Vitomir Milosevic says:

    Exactly for THAT reason,the universe was made,for us to live in it.

  • Gurpreet Chahal says:

    Thank you Sadhguru, you have given me tremendous insights. We are all thinking and trying to make meaning about existing. There is no meaning only love.

  • anthony ujadughele says:

    The man is a genius of life

  • Bonnie greatorex says:

    Thank you, I love you! Can you please tell me what your thoughts are of why the moon does not spin?

  • sun set says:

    Yes it is true i started
    To like this man.

  • Aschwinnie Mahajan says:

    Wonderfull, and full of sense-able explanation.

  • Ravi Chandran says:

    those all religious leaders are not bring any invention for the progress of human being on earth. the science only make people awareness. the religions always doomed the human being not to be aware. the religious leaders are lazy not willing to do any hard work

  • Reagan Stark says:

    So good….so so good… Thank you so very much!

  • Gazi Star says:

    My name is jimmy

  • Ricardo Santos says:

    Wise words. Thanks for sharing them.

  • C Haz says:

    The way I see the universe, it is so huge so that maximum diversity can occur, that other parts of the universe will never be able to directly control or influence much of it, it's made that way to maximize the possibilities while at the same time allowing the greatest amount of freedom for all life which manages to exist throughout it.

  • WOLF WOLF says:

    beyond amazing.
    deepest heartfelt gratitude to the Kenyan hosts, audiences and to Sadhguru πŸ™πŸ½πŸ™πŸ½πŸ™πŸ½

  • SAMPATH RAJAN says:

    Who told you that the universe is not created for you.Then for whom it's created?
    Moons 28 days cycle and womens cycle of 28 days are incidental . For so many other animals the cycle is not 28 days.connecting moons cycle and women's cycle is meaningless.Only sharp people can understand this. Sadhguru is a sharp man.

  • Dabunny Rabbit says:

    we are just here, and we try to make the best of it.
    thats it.
    why think there is anything more.

  • Debra Gittens says:

    You are absolutely right & its so true what you are saying, thanks you for your infinite Wisdom Amen.

  • Debra Gittens says:

    This is extremely beautiful , thanks for Sharing your Wisdom to make this World a better place lol.πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™..

  • Debra Gittens says:

    This whole World has become about words & suddenly everyone has something to say, but yet we are living the most saddest & empty lives, lord help us Amen.

  • Mario Henriquez says:

    I was sad, I was sad, but you made my day with this funny video. You answer to the guy, asking, why God created things that We are incapable to see, even with the largest telescope that exist on earth. Well, hhahhaahah that answer to that question is impeccable. My respect to his divine grace Sadhguru.

  • Prabhakar Rao says:

    One of the BESTs of my dearest Sadhguru

  • MJ Prose says:

    Can you prodict war? Comedy. Need money right? He's a joke.

  • Ayan Kumar says:

    Pranam

  • Spiriteye says:

    More nonsense from a publisher made guru. We are all divine beings made by a divine universe (mother nature).we lost our divinity by getting involved in the material , we cant find our way back home because sheeple follow phony insane money making con men like this guy in a fancy costume with no actual EXPERIENCE of the spiritusl realm except for what he and his staff read in books but dont really understand. He only mentions biology , there are many other classes taught on school to help a child find their purpose on life , did not Leonardo De Vinc disect bodies in order to better heal and save humans from suffering,?…… so how is this barbaric ?. Find your own way out….good luck. The seven holes in your head are from the stars of the big dipper …our glands and organs are from the constellations….. WE are the divine children from a LIVING WOMB divine mother universe. The universe was made for us to explore and to learn how to Evolve from the physical back to the Spiritual …we are made in the image of G.O.D. I.E Our bodies are the universe and our consciousness is the SAME as the Universal Consciousness. We are Stardust we are Golden……….
    Got it ! Good for you . where do all his stupid answers come from ? maybe he's wearing an ear phone ( cant see his ears anymore) and there are helpers behind the curtain giving him the answers. A common trick.

  • Vlad Porembschi says:

    πŸ™

  • Brian Sharp says:

    Please stop putting this dude on YouTube. So annoying.

  • Beerus &ama says:

    Shiva

  • Nancy McConnell says:

    πŸ™Khalil Gilbran said it in his poem "On Children"…"Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, and though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
    You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
    For they have their own thoughts,
    You may house their bodies but not their souls for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow , which you cannot visit, not even in their dreams. You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you. For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
    You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
    The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with his might that his arrows may go swift and far.
    Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness; For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so he loves the bow that is stable."πŸ™

  • Magenelli Epikrati says:

    Wow. If not for you! do not use it! New motto- anything not yours pls do not touch them!

  • Orchid Scent says:

    Academic education and self realisation is equally important. To understand about frogs for example is important but it should not be done in a cruel manner. Some things on this planet need human intervention and we cannot fully leave it to nature but again, the way we intervene must be with full respect to other living things and for the best of planet earth in general.

  • Atoaga Nua says:

    Here's the answer my brother
    The universe is everywhere here's an example
    When you turn off your light in your room there you go my brother there's only darkness In your room there's your universe when all the lights out in your house that's the simple answer that's the universe because there is no existence in the universe only darkness it's true no technology darkness will surround us if it wasn't for πŸ”₯ fire technology wouldn't exist today πŸ”₯ fire said let there be light

  • Atoaga Nua says:

    I've got a big muscle
    In the sea
    It's very delicious and it's unclean like pork but it's still very tasty with coconut cream

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