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Did the witch of Endor really call up Samuel?


Did the witch of Endor really call up Samuel,
and does this story prove that dead souls live outside of the body? It’s time to UNLEARN the lies. UNLEARN Hey, welcome to UNLEARN. My name is Lex, and I’d like to invite you
to join us each week as we UNLEARN the lies and dig deeper into the truth of God’s Word. Now, let’s get started. The Bible talks about how Saul obtained help
from a witch to try to communicate with the spirit of Samuel. This particular event is used to support the
belief that disembodied spirits remain alive after their body dies. Many people also believe the spirit or soul
of the dead go immediately to heaven or hell. However, that’s not what the Bible says. As we look at the events of Saul and the witch
of Endor I see three possible scenarios. The first scenario is that it was actually
the spirit of Samuel that was raised up by the witch. This is the most popular understanding, but
I think it has the most problems, and we will see why in a moment. The second possibility is that the witch summoned
a demon that pretended to be Samuel. This is quite possible since witches gain
power through demons, and the Bible even says she had a “familiar spirit”, which most
likely refers to a demon. And the third possible scenario is that there
was no spirit at all and the witch simply tricked Saul to get back at him for banishing
the necromancers from the kingdom. Considering other things that are said in
the Bible, I think this is also very likely, and we will look at those things as well. Keep those three scenarios in mind as we look
at the Scriptures that deal with these issues. The account of the witch of Endor is found
in 1 Samuel chapter 28. This chapter starts out by telling us that
Samuel died and Saul got rid of everyone who practiced necromancy. “Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had
lamented him, and buried him in Ramah, even in his own city. And Saul had put away those that had familiar
spirits, and the wizards, out of the land.” – 1 Samuel 28:3 Some translations say mediums or necromancers,
but this translation says “familiar spirits”. Ultimately they all mean the same thing. The Hebrew word used here is “Ob” and
means “a leather bottle” because of the hollow sounds they make when doing their séance,
and it refers to mediums, necromancers, or those who have a familiar spirit. Saul put away the necromancers because the
Bible says they should not even be found among God’s people. “There shall not be found among you anyone
who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft,
or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells,
or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. For all who do these things are an abomination
to the Lord, and because of these abominations the Lord your God drives them out from before
you.” – Deuteronomy 18:10-12 Saul should have heeded the warning of Leviticus
though, because it tells us not to consult with them. “Give no regard to mediums and familiar
spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.” – Leviticus 19:31 In fact, it is quite possible that Saul died
as a result of turning to a necromancer for advice, because the Bible says the person
who does that will be cut off. “And the person who turns to mediums and
familiar spirits, to prostitute himself with them, I will set My face against that person
and cut him off from his people.” – Leviticus 20:6 It was good that Saul cast the necromancers
out of the kingdom, but according to the Bible, he should have had them stoned to death. “A man or a woman who is a medium, or who
has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.” – Leviticus 20:27 If he had stoned all of the necromancers as
the Bible says, then he would have never gotten himself into the situation that he did. Alright, let’s move on. We find out that the Philistines gathered
against Israel, and Saul was afraid and didn’t know what to do, so he asked God for help,
but when he didn’t get a response from God, he decided to consult with a medium instead. “And when Saul enquired of the LORD, the
LORD answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me
a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there
is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.” – 1 Samuel 28:7 Notice that God was not speaking to Saul at
all, not even through the prophets, and Samuel was one of the prophets. In fact, Samuel was the main prophet during
the time of Saul, which is why Saul tried to contact him. So, if God was not speaking to Saul through
the prophets, then why would God allow a witch to raise up Samuel to speak to Saul? This is the first problem I see with the idea
that it was actually the ghost of Samuel. Next we see that Saul disguised himself and
went to speak with the woman, and asked her to bring up the spirit of Samuel. “…and he said, I pray thee, divine unto
me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee… Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up
unto thee? And he said , Bring me up Samuel.” – 1 Samuel 28:8-11 Notice that Saul asked her to use a “familiar
spirit” to call up Samuel. According to Webster’s Dictionary, a “familiar
spirit” is “a spirit or demon that serves or prompts an individual.” This is why God forbids the practice of mediums,
divination, and necromancy, because it involves the use of evil spirits. “Sorcerers or necormancers, who professed
to call up the dead to answer questions, were said to have a “familiar spirit”… Such a person was called by the Hebrews an
‘Ob , Which properly means a leathern bottle; for sorcerers were regarded as vessels containing
the inspiring demon. This Hebrew word was equivalent to the pytho
of the Greeks, and was used to denote both the person and the spirit which possessed
him.” – Easton’s Bible Dictionary By saying the woman had a familiar spirit,
the Bible is the telling us that she was demon possessed. It is believed that these demons would assist
witches in their divination and practice of magic. The term necromancy is derived from a combination
of two Greek words, nekrós meaning “dead body”, and manteía meaning “prophecy or divination”. Therefore, the witch was using divination
with the aid of her personal demon (or familiar spirit) to speak to the dead. After she preformed her séance, she was afraid
because of what she saw, but Saul admonished her to tell him about it. “And the king said unto her, Be not afraid:
for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods (Elohim)
ascending out of the earth. And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he
is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and
he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.” – 1 Samuel 28:13-14 The witch claimed to see elohim ascending
from the ground. The word Elohim is typically translated as
“gods” and in this case seems to refer to spirits. This word can be used in reference to the
one true God, but it can also used in reference to pagan gods. It’s important to point out that the Bible
tells us that pagan gods are actually demons. “…the things which the Gentiles sacrifice
they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with
demons.” – 1 Corinthians 10:20 As a side note, some people think that the
righteous dead go immediately to heaven, which is not Biblical. The Bible says the dead wait in their grave
for the resurrection, and I have several teachings about this if you are interested. They like to use this verse to say that Samuel
is alive in heaven, but if Samuel was in heaven, then why does this spirit come up from the
ground? Coming up from the ground indicates that he
came up from the grave or the pit. If this was actually the spirit of Samuel,
we must assume that his spirit was not in heaven, but in the grave. Notice also that Samuel said, “Why have you
disturbed me by bringing me up?”, indicating that Samuel was resting in the grave, and
Saul disturbed his sleep. However, I believe it’s more likely that
this was a demonic spirit that came to deceive Saul. The text itself is a bit ambiguous because
the witch said she saw “gods”, but “Saul perceived that it was Samuel.” This is important to note, because the entire
encounter is based on Saul’s perception. Was his perception right? Was this really Samuel, or was Saul deceived? The Bible speaks about lying spirits who speak
through false prophets to declare disaster against those who seek them. “Then a spirit came forward and stood before
the Lord, and said, ‘I will persuade him.’ The Lord said to him, ‘In what way?’ So he said, ‘I will go out and be a lying
spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And the Lord said, ‘You shall persuade him,
and also prevail. Go out and do so.’ Therefore look! The Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth
of all these prophets of yours, and the Lord has declared disaster against you.” – 1 Kings 22:21-23 I think it’s very possible thats what happened
to Saul. He sought help from a witch and a lying spirit
deceived him and declared disaster against him. The spirit told Saul that God is his enemy,
and he is about to die and be with Samuel. This is another indicator that Samuel was
not in heaven, because if Saul is God’s enemy, then he wouldn’t join Samuel in heaven. But if Samuel was in the grave waiting for
the resurrection, then Saul could join him there. “Then Samuel said: ‘Why then do you ask
me, seeing the Lord has departed from you and has become your enemy?… Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel
with you into the hand of the Philistines. And tomorrow you and your sons will be with
me…’” – 1 Samuel 28:16-19 The main reason why I don’t believe this
was actually the spirit of Samuel is because the Bible says the dead know nothing. “For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.” – Ecclesiastes 9:5 If the dead know nothing, how would Samuel
be able to tell Saul anything? It’s interesting to note that the practice
of necromancy actually has connections with ventriloquism. In fact, the Septuagint uses the Greek word
gastromancy, from the words gastēr meaning “belly” and manteia meaning “prophecy”, indicating
divination by use of guttural sounds, and translated as ”ventriloquist” in English. The medium (or ventriloquist) would chirp,
whisper, and mutter during their séance, and these noises were thought to be the voices
of the dead. The Bible even mentions the mutterings and
whispers of mediums in Isaiah. “And when they say to you, ‘Seek those
who are mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter,’ should not a people seek their
God? Should they seek the dead on behalf of the
living?” – Isaiah 8:19 Remember that the Hebrew word “Ob” means
leather bottle, and Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance says this about it: “properly, a mumble, i.e. A water skin (from its hollow sound); hence
a necromancer (ventriloquist, as from a jar) — bottle, familiar spirit.” – Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance This is what the Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew
English Lexicon says about it: “as chirping & muttering, in practice of
their art of seeking dead for instruction, probably ventriloquism”
– Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
says this: “These terms refer to the necromancers themselves…
who practiced ventriloquism in connection with their magical rites. – International Standard Bible Encyclopedia And the Jewish Encyclopedia has this to say
about it: “The Septuagint generally translates the
word by “ventriloquist,” deriving this meaning from the tone of voice adopted by the necromancer… The “possessor of the ob” stooped while speaking,
to make it appear as if the spirit spoke from his joints and arms… the speech of these
necromancers being therefore called whispering and muttering”
– Jewish Encyclopedia Notice that all of these Concordances and
Lexicons offer ventriloquist as a proper definition of the Hebrew word “ob.” What if the conversation with Samuel was a
clever deception of a skilled ventriloquist? She was recently banished by Saul, who was
now seeking her help. She could have easily used this as an opportunity
to get even with him. All she really did was reinforce his own fears
by telling him the Philistines would defeat him in battle. However, Saul was not slain in battle, he
killed himself, which could be considered an act of self-fulfilling prophecy. Think about mediums today. They are either demon possessed or they are
charlatans who trick people into thinking they speak to the dead. I believe these are the two most likely scenarios
for the witch of Endor as well. Either she spoke to a demon who pretended
to be Samuel, or she tricked Saul through ventriloquism. Thinking that it was actually the spirit of
Samuel seems to contradict what the Bible is telling us, because the Bible tells us
the dead know nothing, and this text itself tells us that God didn’t speak to Saul through
the prophets. This event becomes sort of a satire in which
King Saul seeks help from the dead but ends up killing himself. It shows the irony of seeking help from the
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100 Comments

  • J Sun says:

    Can you please redo this video after reading the book of Enoch. That should help shed light to what happens when we die.

  • lancegblack says:

    I believe the witch had no authority to call up the dead. But I believe God could have sent Samuel to send the message I’m in control of a situation that was forbidden not the witch. Also she didn’t recognise the familiar spirit that was a demon and was shocked at what she saw. If she did call up a dead spirit, that in itself sets a dangerous precedence for today and all mediums will refer to this as proof that they can contact the dead. I read the text as literal and nowhere does it say it was a demonic entity impersonating Samuel, it says and “Samuel said” ect ect I just can’t see how we can say it was a demonic spirit when the writer could have simply stated it as a fact. Great observations though

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  • Mark 1 Adventures says:

    Do you think it is possible that she actually saw Eloihim and that it was God that brought up Samuel from Sheol?

  • RAW asshitshow says:

    Love your work!

  • Allen Elman says:

    Nathaniel Tomlinson TEACHES > "walk in love and grace." Nat says, >Telling OTHER "Brothers and SISTERS" who say We are under grace and not under the law is simply a disagreement with those who say we are COMMANDED to obey ALL of the COMMANDMENTS. Whoever disagrees with ANY Brother or Sister who teaches we are not required to obey the LAWS of YHVH <>YaHoVah DOES NOT WALK IN LOVE AND GRACE AND CAUSES DIVISION! RIGHT NAT!! OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS MEANS JIS LOVE!! AND, NAT!! YOU & I SEE WHAT A BROTHER AND A SISTER "IN THE LORD" MEANS 100% DIFFERENT. I DO NOT CALL A LIE AND A LIAR AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT LOVE AND GRACE IS!! I hope you "get that" tippy toe-er! You TEACH to inherit eternal life JIS LOVE AND BELIEVE IN GRACE! SHOVE IT PUPPET! U R A CLEVER HEAVENLY DEVIL!!

  • Joseph Neeley says:

    How about 4.) God allowed the spirit of Samuel to remind Saul you're time is up. If God can create life or raise the dead, he can make it possible for spirits of the dead to reveal themselves for HIS purpose

  • Nicole Mitchell says:

    Why would the Most High God rely on a servant of Satan to do work on his behalf? This was NOT Samuel. This was a deceiving spirit (a demon). Furthermore, Saul did NOT even see Samuel, only the witch claimed to have seen him. Just because Saul perceived he was speaking to Samuel, does not make it true.

  • Randy Rush says:

    The late J. Vernon McGee has a similar take on this passage as well.

  • Robert Wayne Vernon Jr says:

    This is all speculation "what if " means speculation and not doctrine.

  • carson mcgill says:

    Spirits are normally indicated in the bible in respect of its purpose in order to not confuse the reader… And spirits are known by names hints this why Jesus called for the name of the spirit of the demon possessed man seeing that one can't be called without name.
    So saul asked for Samuel name through that spiritual channel and samuel answered.
    Not alone when samuel told saul that he and his sons would die the next day and his kingdom would david have isreal would be taking by the Philistine.. Was to much relative confirmation in the up coming chapters for me to unlearn the lie wherein it seems to be the bold face truth that actually was revealed by the words of Samuel..

    Not alone the clear indication of the women screamed with a loud voice and was frighten to have called up a man of God…similar to the demons when jesus called them by name out of the demon possessed man they were frightened( forgive the lack of cross reference but I'm sure your no novice to me paraphrasing scripture)

  • Chuck OBryan says:

    Only GOD can raise one from the dead. Why? because life only comes from God. Satan doesnt have that capability nor anyone under his order. Most witches are frauds but this one had a demon. demons are liars.
    The teaching of an after life….or that you really dont die but shed your skin is a Satanic doctrine.
    The wages of sin is death but the GIFT of God is eternal life. How can God give one eternal life if they never die?
    This Satanic teaching also diminishes the wonderful glory when Christ was risen from the dead. If being raised from the dead was such a common feat….Then Satan could also offer the gift of eternal life.
    Being raised from the dead is a unique capability that only GOD himself is capable of.
    God cut ties with Saul. The image of Samuel was either an allusion or a demon pretending to be Samuel. If you say otherwise, youre also saying that Satan has the ability to give and create life….in that case the Gospel woud be worthless because God would be found to be a liar.
    God told Adam "you will most surely die". This would be a very inaccurate statement if Satan could raise one from the dead oor give eternal life.

  • Sam Foye says:

    Good job bro you got me thinking obviously you're on another level than me and I should pay attention to you

  • RONDAZ REDEMPTION says:

    Wut I don’t understand is that spirit spoke the truth he died…. and how is it that satan gets to know any love God makes before he makes so he can set out a delay???

  • RONDAZ REDEMPTION says:

    Wut about ppl having visions and laying hands and so on ect? All this is crazy

  • David Weirauch says:

    1 Sam 28:12 says she saw Samuel, didn't talk to her. Verse 15 says Samuel spoke to Saul, back and forth. Death told King who would replace him. My understanding is that's God's job, not demon's. Guess the point is that Saul lost favor with God, screwed up by going to Endor, died, and David became king.

  • Jude Haynes says:

    I'm not surprised you never responded to my comments refuting your message in this video. YOU NEVER ENGAGE with people who present a credible challenge to your messages in your videos.

    Now if the Bible is inspired by God, who knows everything, wouldn't God have given the person wrote the story of the Witch of Endor.
    If God inspired the writer to write that "Samuel said," who is Lex Mayer that he can say that it wasn't Samuel.

    If it was a demon that pretended to be Samuel, then why didn't God say so in that story. Be careful, it's like you're saying God either didn't know or didn't understand what was going on. Whatever happened to the concept of 'nothing ever happens unless God allows it, or that God knows everything? If a demon pretended to be Samuel and spoke to Saul, then God would have had to have known about it and allow that demon to pretend to be Samuel.

    Why do you go to another story in another part of the Bible that has nothing to do with the witch of Endor story, a story that has its own message separate from the witch of Endor story.

    The witch was a skilled ventriloquist who fooled Samuel? LOL

    If the Bible is the word of God inspired by him, then according to you, Lex, the information given to us about the story of the witch of Endor is incorrect.

    How many other stories written in the Bible are incorrect, Lex

  • Jude Haynes says:

    There was no way for humans to know about the 'lying spirit' unless God revealed it. The conversation about the lying spirit took place in heaven, and the prophets being deceived had no idea that they were being deceived by the lying spirit. God revealed the actions of the lying spirit Micaiah by a vision. Why didn't he reveal the lying spirit in the story of the witch of Endor?

    You are interjecting your own personal feelings and saying that it's the word of God. These personal feeling are clearly based on your lack of understanding of God and his word.

    The story of the lying spirit is it's own story and has its own message and meaning. Since God hates all lies and deceit, it is most likely that this was the ONLY time God used a spirit to deceive mankind. The lying spirit has no place in the story of the witch of Endor. If he did, then God would've revealed it to us.

    I find it hard to believe that God went through all the trouble with his 'know it all' and 'can do it all' self and somehow ended up with false or incorrect information in his word.

  • David Meissner says:

    You mention that those while die await the resurrection while in the grave. However, Jesus said to one of those crucified beside him, "Today thou shall be with me in Paradise" or something to that effect. Also Ecclesiastes states that the flesh returns to the dust and the spirit to God who gave it. So with this in mind, are the terms grave and paradise synonymous in your opinion?

    Update…
    So I just watched your video on the thief and paradise so I think it would be safe to say that the grave and paradise are synonymous. One thing that I think is that perhaps while people await judgement and hopefully a resurrection to eternal life while in paradise, I have thought that in paradise some will be in good standing while others in torments and I refer to the parable of Lazarus and the rich man where both where seemingly in the same place, but there was a gulf fixed between them. Perhaps Jesus giving a snapshot of what it's like.

    Have you done anything on the word "torments" from that parable? I think the Greek is "anathen" [sic] and means touchstone as in a rock used to test the purity of precious metals when struck against it. Perhaps the rich man left a poor mark. Perhaps the torment was immense shame that he felt. Just a thought.

    Anyway, good study.

    Thanks Lex.

  • Felony Videos says:

    Alternate ending:

    4. God himself could have brought Samuel back from the dead to send Saul one last message, and used Saul and the medium as his own tools.

    Saul sure was a loser, and the Israelites should never have taken a king. It seems they never stopped screwing up, even to this day. Even their remnants in the diaspora continue to anger their host countries, and this shiny new country that was given back to them has been at constant odds with their neighbors. From a distance, it is easy to see their failings, even with this log in my eye. What a shame.

  • Luna USA Fer says:

    Witches have access to the spiritual realm. They are able to talk to any spirit. The devil was present before God to ask God to test Job. Same scenario stop here, the spirit of witchcraft asked Samuel to come and speak to Saul. So Samuels spirit was the one that spoke. God aloud Saul to finally find his final fate through the witch who in a way is God’s creation.

  • SPLENOROUS says:

    Lol, people who think that they know so much. Just your silly oppinion which is no more lre valued nor right than anyone elses. So you believe you're rught and so does everyone else

  • Emi 1 says:

    Nice video. I just gained New knowledge.

  • chieduagain says:

    I recommend u stop using the version of bible u use & read the KJV.
    How can gods be referred to as Elohim in 1 Sam 28:13?

    Elohim is never called gods but God. We have ONE God.

    In the KJV it's say gods without the inclusion of Elohim.

    So please start using the KJV

  • Wayne Gates says:

    Yea it was definitely a unclean sprit, demon because it had information witch Demons know things some know the future. You’ll learn this in the testimony of Solomon

  • John Freese says:

    Then why did Jesus say that "God is the God of the living" and referring to Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

  • Dedi Dowdy says:

    But OT prophets/people couldn't go to Heaven because the sacrifice, Yahshua, hadn't come yet. There had not been a redemption for them yet.
    Paul talks about "being absent from the body is to be present with the Lord". He was addressing fears of those who had loved-ones who had passed.
    I'm having a hard time believeing that when a set-apart one dies, he/she remains in the grave until the final judgement.
    Please show me where the NT teaches this…
    And remember, Yahshua told about the rich man and Lazarus. The rich man asked for a drop of water, for he was being tormented.
    So just those few instances in the Scripture don't support a "waiting period", or "soul sleep" as some refer to it.
    I'm just trying to understand this.

  • Bernadette Keane says:

    To be abesnt from the body is to be present with the Lord!

  • jared garden says:

    Your bible has been corrupted and rewritten so many times by selfish corrupt deacons.
    To take this corrupt version of the bible and use it to interpret whats left of a very old story is neglectful and wrong.

  • william Verdell says:

    When Jesus died the physical death did he know nothing? Did he go down into the heart of the earth a preach to spirits? if he did then this guy has some serious explaining to do. First of all there are three parts to us, the physical man, the spirit man, and the soul. The if the dead go to the grave and sleep knowing nothing, how did Jesus go down into the earth and teach? When we die the physical man goes into the ground, and is dead knowing nothing, because the spirit man who gives the physical man life has been seperated from the physical man, so he is the one in the grave, not the spirit man. Before the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus whenever any one died, their spirits all went to one place, the place called Abraham's bosom, in the heart of the earth, the righteous were there, and the unrighteous, in the same place as in the story of the rich man and Lazarus, Luke 16:19-31 just like Jesus spirit went down into the earth and preached to other spirits 1Peter 3:18-20 The one's who died in righteousness, having their sins covered, but not removed yet were with Abraham, the others were in the flames being tormented. Both sides talked to each other and had memory recall of past, and present events. They could see, and talk to each other, but could not cross the GULF or gap, fixed between them, but they were in the same place. Jesus went down into the earth in spirit form, and preached salvation to the spirits of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, ect… he preached to all the spirits who died in right standing with Jesus, 1 peter 3:18-20 and they had to believe the gospel just like us to have their sins forgiven, and removed by the blood, thats why when Jesus arose on resurrection day he led captivity on high. Paradise shifted from down in the heart of the earth up to heaven. Jesus told the thief on the cross, today u will be with me in paradise, and which way did his spirit go when he died physically that day? Thats right down. Later on after the resurrection When Paul died, he say he was caught up to paradise, when Jesus led those spirits who were captive in the hearth of the earth on high, paradise shifted from in the heart of the earth to heaven. Now did this woman conjure up out of the earth the spirit of Samuel? Yes she did, did all those things happen? Yes they did. The Bible backs up that the dead spirits went down in the earth, while the body went into the grave. Can we connect to evil spirits? U better believe it, remember, Jesus himself ran into evil spirits when he was in his flesh body on earth. Last thing, when Peter James and John went up on the mountain and Jesus figure was transformed before their eyes who else showed up? Thats right, a man who's physical body was still in the grave sleep, but his spirit body was awake, and aware, and talking with Jesus, who was this spirit being? Thats right Moses! Who the Bible clearly said died back in the old testament, but his spirit was fully awake and talking lol. If u want to contact me or watch any of my videos on Facebook or YouTube, look up my name William Verdell my Facebook page has the French flag for my picture and im from Ozark al, my highscool is Parrish highscool my YouTube videos should also be found simply under my name, please watch my videos on the book of Revelation and learn why all four views, pre trib, mid trib, pre wrath view, and the post trib view, are all wrong to a degree, and find out things u have never heard in Revelation.
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    Pastor William Verdell Pastor of Winds Of Change Ministries in Ozark al.

  • Forgiveness says:

    I do agree that The witch did not summon the real samuel but just tricked saul. But you are wrong about soul sleep. The human soul does pass on to heaven or hell after death!

    Abel is in heaven (Hebrews 11:4)

    Enoch is in heaven (Genesis 5:21-24; Hebrews 11:5)

    Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are in heaven (Matthew 8:11)

    Moses is in heaven (Matthew 17:1-4)

    Elijah is in heaven (2 Kings 2:1-12; Matthew 17:1-4)

    No Soul Sleep: Not in order

    Genesis 35:18
    2 Samuel 12:23
    Psalm 90:10

    John 5:28-29

    John 11:25-26

    James 2:26

    Philippians 1:21-23

    Philippians 3:20

    Ecclesiastes 3:21

    Ecclesiastes 12:7

    1 Corinthians 15:54-55

    2 Corinthians 5:1-10

    Luke 15:10

    Luke 16:19-31 (Abrahams bosom)

    Luke 23:39-43 (Paradise is Abrahams bosom)

    1 Peter 3:18-19 (Souls in hades/Bosom)

    Ephesians 3:14-15

    Ephesians 4:8-9 (Souls from the Bosom)

    Hebrews 9:27

    Hebrews 12:23-24

    Matthew 7:13-14

    Matthew 12:40

    Matthew 17:1-13

    Matthew 22:32 (Abrahams Bosom)

    Acts 7:54-60

    Revelation 6:9-10

    Revelation 20:4

    Abraham's bosom (Paradise) is where the spirits of the old testament saints resided before Jesus Resurrection. When Jesus died he went to the bosom to proclaim the truth to them and led them out of the bosom into heaven.

    Before the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross no man has ever entered heaven (John 3:13). the old testament saints that died before his sacrifice went to a holding place called Abraham's Bosom (Luke 16:19-31). When Jesus was on the cross he said to the repentant thief “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise”(Luke 23:43). This paradise was the bosom. when Christ died he descended into the holding place of the old testament saints (1 Peter 3:18-19). After he was resurrected, many others were resurrected as well and Christ brought them with him (Matthew 27:52-53; Ephesians 4:8). The old testament saints are now in heaven alive with Christ (Luke 20:27-38; Hebrews 11-12:1). Because of Jesus' death and Resurrection we can go to heaven to be with Christ when we die.

  • Anaconda Squezze says:

    Right on point

  • Sharon H says:

    Great Video

  • Ritu Johnny says:

    You are watching it from the perspective of perception of Saul and possibilities from the witch and demons.
    But it should be watched from the perspective of the writer of the book of 1 Samuel who's inspired by the Holy Spirit.
    In 1 Samuel 28:12 (NKJV),
    "When the woman saw Samuel".
    In 1 Samuel 28:15 (NKJV),
    "Now Samuel said to Saul".
    And there are more mentions by the writer.
    As for Saul's perception again it's the writer confirming that "Saul perceived that it was Samuel" instead of saying something like "Saul thought".
    By the perspective of the writer it indeed is Samuel.
    And it won't contradict the words about the dead or any other part of the rest of the Bible. I can explain.

  • Kingladell Donaldson says:

    Jesus was a nacromancer also

  • Jose Andrade says:

    If all dead are in their graves waiting for the ressurection and "know nothing" in the context you used it,
    How did Moses speak with Jesus in the mountain when Jesus was transfigured? To claim he was ressurected just for that is going beyond what scripture says. What about the story of the rich man and Lazarus resting on Abraham's bosom in Sheol?

  • King Murphy says:

    You are wrong brother about when we die becaise if that was true why did the rich man go streight to hell witchbwas hades the lake of fire and the poor man Lazarus went to Abraham's bosom. No sir that is wrong the the bible says its appointed dor man to die once then the judgement. Dont get carried away with your intellect.

  • mannyonelover1 says:

    Wait but Jesus before being crucified told the theft today you will be with me in paradise???

  • Ely Powell says:

    This guy is off, something is not right!

  • Nokdang Lusang says:

    The demons took the from of Samuel..

  • Jonne Virta says:

    Blasphemy.

  • David Pace says:

    They get that from Paul the Apostle when he said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord… They say when you die you go immediately to be with the Lord… I don't think it really means that in its context….

  • Mrs. Bartlett says:

    “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten”  (Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV).

    The dead know nothing at all as Ecclesiastes says, so just to think about that statement for a minute, if it were samuel that was really speaking, this means he would have been conscious, aware and would be a contradiction to Ecclesiastes.

    Also the message was that saul and his sons would die by the philistines, however saul was wounded and actually committed suicide and his son ishbosheth survived his father saul according to

  • Cult Fiction says:

    You were right when you said that it was done by a demon.
    The demons can present as whoever they please and speak as they would speak.
    It wasn’t trickery, since the witch screamed when she realised it was King Saul.
    This hardly consistent with someone playing a trick. Why would anyone risk playing a trick on the King of the land?
    If she had been deceiving it would of told us that in the text.
    Since in the bible it usually tells us when a person speaks words of deceit.
    It was the demons that have her the ability to do what she did.

  • Ehijator Noel Illenre. says:

    It's was not Samuel, is was a familiar spirit Acts 16 v 16.

  • Isaac Renova says:

    “We have many lessons to learn, and many, many to unlearn.“

    Great proof of correction and great proof of interpretation. Sweet!!!

  • Isaac Renova says:

    No witch is capable of raising the dead. The Lord will never allow a witch to perform this kind of power.

    Only The Lord Jesus and His chosen Peters will have the power to resurrect the dead (John 11:25, John 10:17-18, Acts 9:32-43, John 14:12).

    The manifestation of the latter rain is still yet to come, still yet future (Joel 2:23, James 5:7, John 14:12)

  • Isaac Renova says:

    The following proof of interpretation is based on 1 Chronicles 10:13-14.

    “When Saul inquired for Samuel, the Lord did not cause Samuel to appear to Saul. He saw nothing. Satan was not allowed to disturb the rest of Samuel in the grave, and bring him up in reality to the witch of Endor. God does not give Satan power to resurrect the dead. But Satan’s angels assume the form of dead friends, and speak and act like them, that through professed dead friends he can better carry on his work of deception. Satan knew Samuel well, and he knew how to represent him before the witch of Endor, and to utter correctly the fate of Saul and his sons.—The Spirit of Prophecy 1:376. – {TA 123.3}

    “The Scripture account of Saul’s visit to the woman of Endor has been a source of perplexity to many students of the Bible. There are some who take the position that Samuel was actually present at the interview with Saul, but the Bible itself furnishes sufficient ground for a contrary conclusion. If, as claimed by some, Samuel was in heaven, he must have been summoned thence, either by the power of God or by that of Satan. None can believe for a moment that Satan had power to call the holy prophet of God from heaven to honor the incantations of an abandoned woman. Nor can we conclude that God summoned him to the witch’s cave; for the Lord had already refused to communicate with Saul by dreams, by Urim, or by prophets. These were God’s own appointed mediums of communication, and he did not pass them by to deliver the message through the agent of Satan.”– {TA 124.1}

    “The message itself is sufficient evidence of its origin. Its object was not to lead Saul to repentance, but to urge him on to ruin; and this is not the work of God, but of Satan. Furthermore, the act of Saul in consulting a sorceress is cited in Scripture as one reason why he was rejected by God and abandoned to destruction. “Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to inquire of it; and inquired not of the Lord; therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse.” 1 Chronicles 10:13, 14.—Patriarchs and Prophets, 683.”– {TA 124.2}

    “When Saul inquired for Samuel, the Lord did not cause Samuel to appear to Saul. He saw nothing. Satan was not allowed to disturb the rest of Samuel in the grave, and bring him up in reality to the witch of Endor. God does not give Satan power to resurrect the dead. But Satan’s angels assume the form of dead friends, and speak and act like them, that through professed dead friends he can the better carry on his work of deception. Satan knew Samuel well, and he knew how to represent him before the witch of Endor, and to utter correctly the fate of Saul and his sons.”– {1SP 376.1}

    Remember, Moses was granted the power from God to convert his Shepherd’s Rod into a snake. Satan also had the power to mimic the work of Moses. If Satan has the power to also mimic turning a rod into a snake, Satan most certainly had the power to mimic the voice and appearence of the prophet Samuel.

    Isn’t Satan going to try to mimic the second coming of The Lord Jesus???

  • Edward Miller says:

    I think you need to be more specific in regards to the Dead know nothing. Your not saying like there brain or their thoughts are just gone or blank. Or they can’t communicate. Because when Yahusha was speaking on the story about The Poor Man and The Rich Man, they communicated and realized what was going on in Sheol. So I’m not disagreeing with if it was Samuel that he actually spoke with, just Need specifics on the dead know nothing. I think they was talking about people that are living but spiritually dead

  • hotzpacho says:

    Except:.
    1. Spirits are not living beings. Spirit means character.
    2. Demons are not living breathing beings either.

    Someone who proclaims to know hebrew should know this.

  • Unite The Christ says:

    The adversary deception is stronger today than ever.

    Read the book of Enoch they have apps.

    It has great knowledge of the history into the lord of spirits and his hosts. The rebellion and their condemnation.

    A time before the flood.

    Amazingly we dig and pump elements spirits were bound to from the depths of the earth and spew them everywhere.

    Your house, your clothes, your kitchen everything in your sight was manufactured with fossil fuels byproduct, polymers that come from miles below the earth.

    Where god bound the Demons= The intellectual Spirits. Azezeel and his following

    We have literally raised the dragons temple onto the earth. Greed does the adversaries work for them.

    Strengthening their presence on the earth.

    Sometime in 2023 I pray Yeshua our rock returns.Amen.

    🥖🍷👑☄️🔥🌎🔥🐍🔥🐉🔥❤️🌎❤️🌅

  • LEVANTATE Y ORA says:

    One problem the devil does not know the future and samuel said tomorrow you will die…

  • LEVANTATE Y ORA says:

    I was dead in 2015 dec 10 and my soul come out the body and I was seeing everything that was happening and at the end I came back to my body .. stop lying to people..and the bible say that Jesus when he die he went and preach to does spirit that were in the belly of the earth…and Jesus said dont be afraid of does that will kill your body but cant touch your soul explain. That… and if you need my paper work from the hospital that I was dead I will send it go you..and also Jesus said a story of the king and lasares they both die one when to the lower part and one went to abraham.. and the king said abraham let me go to you and he said does that are on that side cant come to this side…and when Jesus die the bible is clear he free does soul from before.. be clear your soul cant die is energy it energy doesn't die..and I been out of my body when i die and a few more times when God allows me to ..

  • LEVANTATE Y ORA says:

    Poul said I know a man who was taken up to heaven if it was in the body or in the spirit I don't know .. we are sould body and spirit . Dont be afraid who could kill your body but cant kill your soul pls explain everything i have said .. including my death when I came out of the body … I was declared dead in Brooklyn hospital dec 10 2015 .. explain this to me

  • Thomas Price says:

    what did it mean at the end of the verse the living know they will die but the dead know nothing (and have no more reward) did that mean the end and no life after death or something else because anything after death would be a reward. I know its a little off topic but you did say it twice.

  • Last Chance says:

    This is one of those times we have to believe the scripture and adjust our preconceived notions. As Christ said: God is a god of the living, not of the dead.. Christ taught of Hades (Sheol) with two compartments, Torment and Paradise. Our Lord told the thief on the cross, this day you will be with me in Paradise. Understand that the righteous spirits did not go to heaven before the resurrection, and the unsaved spirits are not immortal, they are simply incarcerated until they rejoin their bodies in the resurrection. For those whose names are not found in the book of life there will be destruction (second death) of the entire soul (body and spirit) in the lake of fire. Samuel only said he was disturbed, not that he was woken up. The book of Ecclesiastes is written from the point of view of humanity (under the sun) not of spiritual realities. Finally, this is about the first king of Israel, not just any average Joe. Yahweh is teaching him , and us, a lesson about disobedience. Saul sinned but he was not an apostate, he would suffer death for his sin but still go to paradise and be with Samuel the next day. Notice that the witch was shocked as well, this was not normal events for her either. So, yes it was Samuel and we don't have to twist the scripture to understand. Instead, unlearn your doctrines to conform with the scripture.

  • Mandi Clapper says:

    What scripture made you say you believe the dead rest in their graves. The Bible says to be absent the body is to be present with Christ. I don’t about you but when I die, I believe I will take my place immediately with Jesus Christ. My old dead body can rise with the rest in his return but my soul will be in heaven the minute it leaves the body!

  • Elros KIngsley says:

    Ephesians 4:9-10 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
    He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
    Luke 16:19 -31 . Read it . Lazarus and the rich man . Describes where people are held until Jesus dies for us .IN THE LOWER PART OF THE EARTH. Of course Samuel ascended , he was with Abraham , waiting for Jesus to come , post-cross to take them to heaven. They could not go before being redeemed . They could not be redeemed until Jesus died on the cross.
    1st Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
    Isaiah 61:1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
    These verses describe Jesus descending to save the prisoners of death . Who can not be in Gods presence because their sin has not been dealth with properly. Only Jesus blood can redeem anyone permanently .
    Wrong again Lex .

  • camay116 says:

    you are wrong, Samuel was/is in Heaven as is all who pass away, that is biblical!

    2 Corinthians 5:6-8,

    6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

    7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

    8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

    Ecclesiastes 12:5-8

    5 Also when they shall be afraid of that which is high, and fears shall be in the way, and the almond tree shall flourish, and the grasshopper shall be a burden, and desire shall fail: because man goeth to his long home, and the mourners go about the streets:

    6 Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern.

    7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

  • Star of Eden says:

    There is a big difference between the death…dead ..eternal dead and those who are fallen asleep..

  • LEVANTATE Y ORA says:

    if it was demon the bible would have had said it dont you think. And when the witch sow it was samuel she screamed and said you trick me you are soul .. and he ask her what do you see she said I see some one that looks like a god ..
    ..

  • Leyton Lerone says:

    Can you do a study on the abyss according to Luke 8:31?

  • Greg Logan says:

    Here is the simple true bottom line reality – no one really knows.

    We don't even know if this event actually happened – we simply assume that it did based on presupposition.

    However if one were to take the intent of the text, the intent is that Saul did interact with Samuel – that's the intent of the text. One would have to be deceived or a deceiver to think otherwise – for it is so clear that a fool need not err therein.

  • Vanessa Okenyeka says:

    The third possibility can't be possible cause Samuel was talking to Saul

  • Justinextreem says:

    Its official. Witches are real but now a days idunno… but they were real…

  • HISSWORD says:

    A problematic passage indeed.
    The passage reads “Samuel said” a couple of times. It would have been easier to discern had it read “the spirit said”, but for some reason it does seem to affirm that it was Samuel. This to me seems impossible. It IS interesting how he says that Saul and his sons would be with HIM. Samuel was a godly man but Saul was made an enemy of God according to this passage. So it is unlikely they would ever end up in the same place.

  • Mich Elle says:

    again lucifer, the father of lies up to destruction. pagan heathen mohammadans🌙🧕🧕👳🏾‍♂️🧕🧕🌙 have so many sects and wars against each other yet when attacked they unite while arrogant & godless creatures create more & more dissension among Christians. Christians all over the world are being persecuted by mohammadans & godless evil rulers, and in The Holy Bible, God said “If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you too” so her we are in the end times just as The Holy Bible said. Christians, if you are searching for truth prsy to The Holy Spirit to guide you, follow The Ten Commandments, 1 Peter 5:8 “Discipline yourselves; keep alert. Like a roaring lion your adversary the devil prowls around, looking for someone to devour. Resist him, steadfast in your Faith, for you know that your Beothers and Sisters throughout the world are undergoing the same kinds of suffering” & – False ascetism – 1 Timothy 4: Now The Spirit expeslly says that in later times some will renounce The Faith by paying attention to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the hypocrisy of liars whose conscience are seared with a hot iron” (unquote). The evil creature who has downloaded this is doing the work of none other than lucifer his father of lies.

  • David van Wyk says:

    The Word of God said that it was Samuel and that is that … 1 Sam 28:15 'And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up?' Therefore scripture acknowledged that it was Samuel.

  • simeon Nandalall says:

    if someone has made contact with one who speak to evil spirits, can they be forgiven by god?

  • Theta Kongpancake says:

    Like congress makes laws for We The People but they dont apply to them Like Obamacare. These rules are for man in this world the 3D. The Watchers Use these things Freely aka Free Will in other realms and here We Have Many Healers Here Right Now Do Not Be Affraid Rather Open your Heart and Judge Us By Our Works … Judge Us By Our Play Too 🙂 Thanks for video 🙂

  • The Never Ending says:

    You can’t prove with the Bible that it was a demonic spirit. Usually the Bible makes it clear, like when scripture says God allowed a lying spirit to enter false prophets mouth. But the scripture never says it was a demon.

  • Tony Tran says:

    Your intrepretation that it wasn't samuel defy all logical reasoning. The text did plainly said it was Samual. Why would the bible use the word Elohim to refer to demons or the devil? Be careful you don't commit the same sin the pharisee did by calling the spirit of God the prince of demons. You will be in danger of an eternal sin.

    I believe it's not so surprising that God would use this opportunity to "spell" Saul's death. Since God was no longer on friendly terms with Saul. So it isn't a stretch to say he used Saul's enemy against him.

    Remember only God can raised the dead and only he can establish a connect between a human and his dead prophets He did it again with Jesus on the mountain. Except that time it was Moses and Elijah who showed up.

    Please use common sense on this one. Listen to your conscience. It can't go wrong since it is the image of God.

  • Boaz Manyara says:

    But i do not understand the the bible's need to make such crucial information very ambiguous. It is not a movie script, there is no need for guesswork. This claims that spirits and witches could exist!

  • kevin mohammed says:

    Beautiful eplaination of this story which alot of people have wrong good work keep studying and sharing truth

  • CandyCandy says:

    That's crazy…

  • CandyCandy says:

    But samuel isnt dead…like he was of God so he didnt die..we dont particularly die..

  • Benjamin Watson says:

    No I don't agree, she was surprised to find out it was Saul ,I believe it was Samuel

  • Kevin D. says:

    I don't understand why he skipped 1 Samuel 28:12. It's the one verse that makes the theory that it is Samuel make sense. 'When the woman saw Samuel, she cried out loudly. The woman said to Saul, “Why have you deceived me? You are Saul!”'

    She summons her spirit and is surprised when the real Samuel arrives and from that deduces the only person who could make this happen is Saul.

    If you act like this verse doesn't exist, other explanations make sense. But it does. ANd since it does, the other explanations do not make sense. The Witch of Endor intended to summon a familiar spirit to pretend to be Samuel, and God made sure the spirit of the real Samuel showed up.

  • David Brooks says:

    It was a familiar spirit. The bible was clear Saul banned the people who practiced calling them up. But he goes to one. Ironic, isn't it? How desperate he had become. By the way? No soul sleep. 2 Corinthians 5:8 to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Sorry guys. Study your bibles a little harder.

  • Matt_von_Glanz says:

    3 is contextually impossible, she was very upset.
    2 is possible, but allegged Samuel was also upset, not deceiving
    What now?

  • Master Styl1 says:

    So how do we explain 2 Corinthians 5:8?

  • Grace Grace says:

    Hi brother I watched ur video but there is a part in the bible talks about the rich man and Lazarus , how can we view this please and thank fir your time. God bless 🙂

  • James Clark says:

    The "entity" that speaks with Saul tells him he will be dead the next day…and Saul was. This was a true prophecy. Does anyone know of any example in the scriptures of demons or Satan being able to accurately predict the future?

  • Meiguoren85 says:

    The problem with this analysis is three fold:
    1.) The witch was obviously shocked by what she saw for she screamed.
    2.) She suddenly realized that Saul was the king.
    3.) Everything the witch said came to pass exactly as she foretold.

    In the last case, if she was only tricking him, how is it what she said came to pass. The most likely scenario, is that the witch was a fake like most are, and God allowed Samuel to appear for this moment.

  • Beanmachine91 says:

    God intervened

  • santos philip says:

    Bible says that the deads are "sleep" or resting

  • Kevin Scott says:

    Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

  • Adilson M says:

    There is no spirit of any kind at all. The only existing spirit is GOD.
    Mediums cannot summon what do not exist. There are no demons, this is simply a false idea people believed in, and the authors of bible texts registered just what people thought was real. Jesus only cured mental sicknesses people thought was demon possession.

  • Jonathan Hughes says:

    No. God spoke through the witch of Ednor, directly at, Saul.

  • Brad Brown says:

    Unseen Realm by Dr Micheal Heiser would be of benefit to you. Deuteronomy 32 worldview.

  • Keith Busch says:

    You are incorrect lex Samuel did come back from the dead. The text does not say that a demon came in Samuels place it said Saul spoke to Samuel Saul could not see him but hear him the witch could see and hear him. So in this one circumstance YAHWEH made an EXCEPTION and let Samuel prophesy to him his own DEATH! And she saw him ascend from below not above the woman freaked out because this was not trickery this terrified her because it really happened. You are correct no one has risen to Heaven except for YASHUA THE CHRIST!

  • Keith Busch says:

    Elohim in this case was A god it was SAMUEL because Samuel's prophecy came true if they t were a demon it would of told a half truth. So Samuel came up from the world of the dead. An Elohim is a god not gods and even if Samuel was soul sleeping does not mean that the MOST HIGH could not wake him up GOD CAN DO SNYTHING!

  • Keith Busch says:

    The leather bottle is where the Arabian Genie in the bottle or Gin came from,.

  • Mike Moats says:

    I was married to the witch of endof. Because when we divorced it was the endof my stuff.

  • Amanda says:

    so the bible lies when it says something. Come on! You want to be a teacher but fail to interpret basic logic of a clear text. The witch had a demon that had power to travel to the ocean-of-the-dead and back, thats how she made Saul and Samuel communicate. Why should Samuel not be sleeping in the Ocean of the dead? Even the christians of the tribulation will be found in there, not in heaven. All people rest in this place first. I see no problems with 1.samuel 28 at all, why cant you believe the demon of that witch had powers? Demons do these things if it makes sense after all, you wont see a demon on TV because demons cant do what they want, they are bond to rules.

  • Q's Reviews says:

    This video made for a fantastic discussion and study material. It's great to see someone use the Bible to interpret what was going on here as it should be. Many thanks!

  • Tea P. says:

    Asking God to raise someone from the dead is okay, right?

  • Terry Haley says:

    Opinions, opinions, opinions

  • Alexandre Souza says:

    Demons

    Are the disembodied unclean spirits
    Of the Nephelim and the Hybrid Giants and Abominations that the Lord Yahweh Destroyed in Noah's flood.The Giants souls are the ghost and evil unclean spirits and aliens ,criptids and demons that device,possesse,attack,haunt,shapeshift,appear as angels of light… roam the earth ,hungery and thirsty tormented and having NO PEACE…
    FOR EVER!
    UNTIL JUDGMENT DAY!
    THE DAY OF THE LORD!
    They are not the fallen angels.

  • Laikee Thomas says:

    If the dead stay in there casket pleases explain shole and Hades

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